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@compstuff, OT - Where did you get wGet64? What version is it? When I have used wGet, I have used Wget v1.11.4, along with wGetGUI v1.20, both of which were the latest versions I was aware of. Cheers and Regards

What do you mean it doesn't work? What happens? Since there seems to be a problem with the way that you have made your silent installer, can you upload the installer that you made and post a link to it here so that maybe either Thiersee or compstuff could take a look at it and see what you are doing wrong? Cheers and Regards

Here's yet some more examples of screw-ups. 1) I tried to quote the above post so I could edit it to show you what happened, but it won't include my quotes, which is where the problem is located I wanted to edit! A quote of the above post only got me this, which doesn't help me at all: 2) To emphasize, I think the inability to quote a post and preserve the existing quote blocks in the post is a major, major problem. 3) OK let me see if I can force this. I tried to edit the above post to add a line feed inside the quote block right after the quote I included from nonno fabio. I couldn't do it. If I added the line feed while in "BBCode" mode, when it switched to "pretty" mode, or when I made the post, the extra line feed just kept being deleted no matter what I tried. If I added the line feed while in "pretty" mode, I ended up with a much bigger mess. NOTE: The way I was able to get the full post here to allow me to edit it was to right click the post's edit button and open it in another tab, switch to "BBCode" mode, because you can't copy from one post to another and preserve the quote boxes with their headings any other way that I have found, then copy the contents of the edit block here and manually enter the quote block with the proper heading. Nik, this REALLY shouldn't be this difficult. If I had wanted to quote someone else's post that had embedded quote blocks I don't know how the heck I would have been able to do that since I wouldn't have had edit rights to the post. A ...... To emphasize the ridiculousness of the error above, while in "pretty" mode, I placed my cursor after the "A" in "A couple" and hit enter. That's all I did. As you can see, it then added an extra quote block, (originally it was labeled as being from nonno fabio but that designation disappeared by itself after toggling the "BBCode mode" off and on), around the rest of MY text for some unfathomable reason. Very confusing. [EDIT: I've also now discovered that the preview and actual post do not always match what is shown in the edit box in either "pretty" or "BBCode" mode. That's now even more annoying! This forum software seems more and more broken the more I mess with it.] I thought I could then take advantage of the "quote block delete" error the forum software has and purposefully backspace until the "extra" quote block gets deleted. But it wasn't straightforward or easy, It kept adding extra quote blocks seemingly randomly. Here is an example of the crap it kept producing: ...... It got MUCH crazier. At one time I think this entire post was nested in 14 levels of quotes, and occasionally entire paragraphs were randomly deleted. Fortunately I kept a plain text copy in an external editor I could just reload otherwise I would have had to start all over many, many times. Below is the way I really wanted it, (but the effort to make it this way, with the risks of it getting screwed up, just didn't make it worthwhile to try an edit the original post for the simple change I wanted to make. A couple of problems I discovered while in the mode where the BBCodes are showing (I wish I knew a better name to call the two modes - "pretty" vs "BBCode" ? ). One is that I sometimes have to toggle back and forth between the two modes and enter line feeds in the "pretty" mode to get the line spacing right between text I was entering when it was surrounded by quote blocks since otherwise if I just stayed in "BBCode" mode, it sometimes tended to delete line breaks I tried to insert between the block and my reply text when I posted the post. It wasn't consistent though. (Sorry for the poor explanation, I hope you understand what I mean.) ... ... What a lot of effort to do a simple edit! 4) I have since found that if you want to force a blank line between your text and an adjoining quote or code block while you are in "BBCode" mode, that if you make sure that blank line has at least one "space" in it then that will sometimes work. At least it worked for me enough for me to edit the original post successfully. FINALLY! 5) I have spent over two hours trying to force this "simple" post to do my bidding so you could see the problems we are having to deal with. There has got to be a better way, or it just won't be worth it to edit or quote anything. Sorry to be such a complainer lately. Cheers and Regards

See here for a detailed discussion. Cheers and Regards

As you requested, I signed up and posted this at the link you provided: A couple of problems I discovered while in the mode where the BBCodes are showing (I wish I knew a better name to call the two modes - "pretty" vs "BBCode" ? ). One is that I sometimes have to toggle back and forth between the two modes and enter line feeds in the "pretty" mode to get the line spacing right between text I was entering when it was surrounded by quote blocks since otherwise if I just stayed in "BBCode" mode, it sometimes tended to delete line breaks I tried to insert between the block and my reply text when I posted the post. It wasn't consistent though. (Sorry for the poor explanation, I hope you understand what I mean.) The other minor thing is that when in "BBCode" mode, line wrap does not break at word boundaries, but will just wrap in the middle of a word. It can be a little confusing. By the way, the official name for the "magic button" is BBCode Mode, for those looking for it. If it makes any difference, I'm on Win7 x64 and have been using SRWare Iron portable as my almost exclusive browser for almost two years now. Cheers and Regards Of course, since it was my first post: And even then, apparently it will only be visible to me: So I really don't know what good that post did besides proving that the problems I've found exist over there and not just here. How do I know the problems exist there even if I can't see my post yet? All you have to do to see the results of any experiments are either to toggle the "BBCode" mode on and off and/or Preview the post. The text will be changed in the edit box. Let me know what else I can do to help. Cheers and Regards

Unfortunately, no, I'm not completely positive. I noticed the editing issues mentioned in the OP over the last few months, and only decided to mention it after noticing the post by OnePiece, but whether the problems only came after the last update or if it might have begun with the update before I'm not sure. When exactly have the last few board updates occurred? I know you've been keeping the board updated frequently whenever updates are available, so I quit taking major notice over when exactly they happened. I noticed the deal mentioned above about messed up [ url ] links for the first time just before I posted about it. Until this week I didn't know that the "magic button" even existed, so I couldn't say whether behavior in "pretty" vs "BBCode" mode is different and if so when that difference began. I know you will keep on top of this, and I'll just keep posting things I notice. Cheers and Regards my friend, John

Thanks mooms! I think Rick should add that to the first post along with his tools as an example of how to "roll your own" if necessary. Cheers and Regards

Nik, I ran into something weird. When I tried to enter a link to a post over at MSFN by surrounding it with [ url ] tags like this: [ url ]http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/156730-unattended-installation/page__p__1030189#entry1030189[ /url ] without the extra spaces of course, it turned into this when it was posted: [ url=undefined ][url=http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/156730-unattended-installation/page__p__1030189#entry1030189[]http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/156730-unattended-installation/page__p__1030189#entry1030189[ /url ] The only way the post was able to be posted correctly was if I entered it like this: [ url=http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/156730-unattended-installation/page__p__1030189#entry1030189 ][url=http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/156730-unattended-installation/page__p__1030189#entry1030189[]http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/156730-unattended-installation/page__p__1030189#entry1030189[ /url ] That's perfectly fine, but it shouldn't be required. EDIT: It's actually worse than it looks. Quote this post and go into "BBCode" mode and see how screwed up this really is. Cheers and Regards

Link fixed. Cheers and Regards

Thanks for the clarifying info jaynbe. I think that info should be added to the first post to keep others from asking over and over. Cheers and Regards

The disadvantage to wiktorynka's method is that it requires mounting and unmounting the image. There are other methods, I'm not sure if your way is one of them compstuff, which allow the installation files to be updated, changed, deleted, etc just by dropping them into a folder, which you could even have on a different disk, making them much easier to update. The installation of those installers at OS install time should be virtually identical, however. An example of such a method which uses an external folder for your installation files is shown here - http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/156730-unattended-installation/page__p__1030189#entry1030189. Cheers and Regards

Even if it is, I think it's a very bad place to use. In my opinion, a better place is something like WhateverDiskYouWantToUse:\DL. Cheers and Regards

Yes, McRip offers both with no need to visit special MS links or have to order special hotfixes from MS. He's done that already for you. As far as which branch to use, it's really a matter of person preference. Some prefer the GDR branch as there are fewer updates to integrate and they are slightly more stable, though they are not immune to issues. Others figure that all of the LDR/QFE updates will eventually be rolled into the GDR branch anyway, or the next SP if there ever is one, so you might as well be prepared. While there is a very small risk that new bugs are introduced, the cases where that has occurred are rare and they are usually corrected quickly with yet another update. LOL I personally have not run into a problem using the LDR/QFE branch and I think it is what Lego uses himself. Cheers and Regards

Ah - hadn't noticed that. Thanks Oh well, was worth a shot. Cheers and Regards

Thanks! Let me know what you think about the SevenForums bbce. Cheers and Regards

So that mooms doesn't have to worry about continuing to host this file if he doesn't want to, here is where the original developer announced Fass v0.9 - http://community.invisionpower.com/blog/478/entry-1387-Fass-0-9-released/ As mooms mentioned, the referenced page is no longer on the thepawgroup site, but thanks to the magic of the Wayback Machine you can still find it here: and the download link still functions to get the same file that mooms posted. EDIT: -- And as yet another, a little more recent and more fully featured option, it seems that the good folks at SevenForums have their own BBCode editor available here that looks quite good. Cheers and Regards

I'm glad to see someone is still using DXCB, mooms! Cheers and Regards my friend

Thanks for the clarification. I was just going to ask about that after visiting the official site. For those wondering, Fass apparently stands for Forum assistant. Hopefully, the Community Forum Software will be fixed/improved so that separate tools are not needed. But at least now we have a couple of ways around the current problems. Cheers and Regards

True. That is a sloppy implementation. I've used other forum software, such as at Ryans, where you edit while the BBCodes are showing and the similar buttons work just fine, inserting the BBCodes as appropriate. Thanks for this I'll have to check it out. New discovery. The "magic button" remembers its last position! So whatever way you left it when you last edited a post, it will be that way the next time you edit a post. That helps a little bit. You can also use toggling the "magic button" like a "Preview this post" even when using the "quick edit" box to make a new post. A couple of problems I just discovered while in the mode where the BBCodes are showing (I wish I new a better name to call the two modes - "pretty" vs "BBCode" ? ). One is that I sometimes have to toggle back and forth between the two modes and enter line feeds in the "pretty" mode to get the line spacing right between text I was entering when it was surrounded by quote blocks since otherwise if I just stayed in "BBCode" mode, it sometimes tended to delete line breaks I tried to insert between the block and my reply text when I posted the post. It wasn't consistent though. (Sorry Nik, I hope you understand what I mean.) The other minor thing is that when in "BBCode" mode, line wrap does not break at word boundaries, but will just wrap in the middle of a word. It can be a little confusing. By the way, the official name for the "magic button" is BBCode Mode, for those looking for it. Cheers and Regards

I guess we'll need a specially written batch as the easiest way to do this? Cheers and Regards

LOL Thanks Nik! Cheers and Regards

I didn't make any pics of the problems, since at the time I was too busy cussing at having to correct or re-enter lost data. Sorry. The two worst times were both editing posts in this thread, if I remember correctly. One of the two was editing this post. I went in and edited the post and when I posted it about a quarter of it was just gone. Fortunately, that time I just happened to have that same page of the thread open in another tab and was able to cut and paste to recover the old and my edits, as best as I could remember them. The other time I had edited a different post and when I posted, not only half of it was gone, but what was left was no longer in either clear text or in BBCode, but was in HTML. It was a much smaller post so I was able to recreate it. I'm on Win7 x64 and have been using SRWare Iron portable as my almost exclusive browser for almost two years now. I have really found it annoying that when you edit a post with code or quote tags, or any BBCode tags I guess, that the edit box defaults to editing the post in its "pretty" state rather than with the BBCodes showing. It makes it almost dangerous, at least to your sanity, to try and edit within the code block. If you happen to be deleting within the code block and backspace just one too many characters, you lose the block outline and its heading ( such as "NIM, on 15 Feb 2013 - 02:12, said:" ), and it is totally unrecoverable with control Z or anything else I've found. Everything that was inside the code block is now outside it When it has happened to me, at least a dozen times, I've had to just cancel the edit and start all over as the only way to get what I wanted to say to look right. Now that I finally found the magic button to be able to toggle between having BBCodes shown or not while editing, I at least won't have that problem any more since everyting in the edit box will be treated as text and control-Z will act correctly. I haven't looked to see if there is a profile setting to force this a default behavior, but I hope so. Nope, no way I can find. To see for yourself what happens, pick any post you wish, and hit the "Quote" button. In the edit box position your cursor inside the quoted text box at the very beginning of the quoted text. Hit the Backspace key and see what happens. Try to get the quoted text box back. You can't do it. Try the same thing but in the edit mode where all the BBCodes are visible. Now, anything you delete is recoverable with a simple control-Z. I'm sure that all my problems would never have occurred if I had simply been editing in the mode where BBCodes are visible. As far as I'm concerned, editing in the "pretty" mode is just plain broken and the more complicated the post is that you are editing the more likely it is that you will have problems. EDIT1: For those who haven't found it, the magic button is the one in the top left corner of the edit box. EDIT2: I figured at least nonno fabio has run into similar problems since he just posted yesterday: Cheers and Regards

I don't know if anyone else has experienced issues, (nonno fabio implied he has been having problems as well here), but a few times now I have tried to edit posts only to have either half the post disappear, or the formatting go nuts, or some other problem. Were there some recent "improvements" that we might should roll back? I have JUST discovered the button to turn on/off BBCode mode, so that might help a little. In the meantime, I've started composing/editing my posts in an external editor and pasting the completed post back in order to post. That way I have a backup in place if the board software screws up. But the board software used to be very reliable. Hopefully, something can be done to improve things. Cheers and Regards

Though the batch approach has not worked correctly, yet, I haven't given up on the approach since I'm sure there will be occasions where it will be useful. I'll continue to keep you apprised of my progress. If you don't mind Geej, I'll do so here since it sort of began here. Once a "universal solution" can be found, or now if you would prefer, we can move the batch approach discussion to it's own thread so that it can be found more easily by others. Cheers and Regards

I was thinking that the ability to use language pack options was one of the added "features" of Pro and Ultimate, and it wasn't available for Premium and Starter. Did I not remember that correctly? Cheers and Regards