BlueMe Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 Hi & thanks for this work. I have one question; after a fresh install of 7 SP1 I've installed your NET package and hoped that the 3.5.1 updates that show in Windows Update won't be needed but I see they are still appearing, is this expected behaviour ?Thank you Quote
mooms Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Yes, 3.5.1 and 4.5.1 are different products, and 4.5.1 do not replace 3.5.1 You can integrate 3.5.1 updates with Wintoolkit or "manually" with dism. See this: http://www.wincert.net/forum/topic/10811-11-d%C3%A9cembre-2013-packs-de-maj-gdr-pour-windows-7-sp1/or this: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/139877-post-sp1-updates-for-windows-7-updated-10122013/ for list of updates. Quote
ricktendo Posted December 19, 2013 Author Posted December 19, 2013 PointZero found this one:http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908383KB Article Number(s): 2908383Language: All (Global)Platform: i386Location: (http://hotfixv4.microsoft.com/.NET%20Framework%204.5%20–%20Windows%207/Windows%20Server%202008,%20Windows%20Vista%20SP2/Windows%20Server%202008%20SP2/nosp/DevDiv1021818/52013.19453/free/471401_intl_i386_zip.exe)-----------------------------------------------------------KB Article Number(s): 2908383Language: All (Global)Platform: x64Location: (http://hotfixv4.microsoft.com/.NET%20Framework%204.5%20–%20Windows%207/Windows%20Server%202008,%20Windows%20Vista%20SP2/Windows%20Server%202008%20SP2/nosp/DevDiv1021818/52013.19453/free/471402_intl_x64_zip.exe) Quote
BlueMe Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Ok, so from what I understand even if I download the full installer : http://www.wincert.net/forum/topic/10715-rebuilt-net-framework-451-full-x86x64-10-19-2013/ it will make no difference ?Thank you for you answer, best wishes. Quote
ricktendo Posted December 20, 2013 Author Posted December 20, 2013 Actually this is a brand new installer, normally it would depend if you did not use the /trainswap switch to force install LDR files a hotfix like this would not apply...but Microsoft strangely released a BRAND NEW, updated, LDR only installer (that when I get back up and running will use to replace the GDR/LDR one you link to) and I will redo all my installers using this oneFor now if you want a slim version of this newer 4.5.1 installer, use 7zip to extract, vbs to slim (then simply install,) admin install (optional,) and repack (optional.) Quote
bphlpt Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 But, BlueMe, if your question is whether there is any .NET installer out there, 4.0 or 4.5.1, Slim or Full, that if applied to a Fresh install of Win7 SP1 will make it so that the 3.5.1 updates that show in Windows Update won't be needed, AFAIK the answer is still no. As mooms explained, they are different products. 3.5.1 is now part of the OS itself and is no longer an addon like it was in XP. Updates for 3.5.1 will be needed from WU/MU unless you integrate them into your install source, prior to installing the OS, through the use of Win Toolkit, DISM, or a similar tool. Cheers and Regards Quote
BlueMe Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 That was perfectly clear bphlpt, I thank you both and wish you all happy holidays ! Quote
l33tissw00t Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Can you please include somewhere in the post a "Last Updated", so we can compare to ours. Thanks for the awesome work! Quote
ricktendo Posted December 22, 2013 Author Posted December 22, 2013 If you can, compare the md5 of both installers (its listed on the 1st post)BTW sorry for not updating with the new installer from KB2908383, PC is still down Quote
bphlpt Posted December 23, 2013 Posted December 23, 2013 Can you please include somewhere in the post a "Last Updated", so we can compare to ours.Thanks for the awesome work! What, the date in the thread title isn't enough? [slim] .NET Framework 4.5.1 Full x86/x64 (10-17-2013) I also have asked Rick to include a date or something in the actual name of the app, for the same reason you mentioned, but I can also understand the advantages that leaving the app name more "generic" gives when automating an install source build, so I guess we'll have to make do with the date in the thread title unless Rick can be persuaded. Cheers and Regards Quote
Ghost360 Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Hello there, wanted to ask because I am getting this message when dotNetFx451_Full_LDR_x86_x64_Slim is being installed (Latest Release). I have tried both /y and /y /norestart switches and with both I get this message saying that I need to restart. Can you please tell me if I need to use a different switch to prevent this from happening, thank you for your time and help in advance. Josh Quote
mooms Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 This is not the usual behavior of this installer.You can try to install it at last (move it at the bottom in Win Toolkit) and see if it still asks for reboot. Quote
ricktendo Posted January 3, 2014 Author Posted January 3, 2014 Im back, PC fan FINALLY!!! arrived...will update this maybe tomorrow RicaNeaga 1 Quote
Ghost360 Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 thank you ricktendo, hopefully you can get this switch issue fixed. I have everything else working, just this package is giving me issue (dotNetFx451_Full_LDR_x86_x64_Slim) Josh Quote
ricktendo Posted January 3, 2014 Author Posted January 3, 2014 If you are going to use my .net 4.5.1 installer during this phaze os install you have to repack it...I think you need to because during setup .net fails to install, there is a reg trick you will find the in the config.txt of the no-gui sfx that you need to enable Other than that wait until you are logged in to install without problem Quote
bphlpt Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 Glad you finally got your fan! Cheers and Regards Quote
Ghost360 Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 If you are going to use my .net 4.5.1 installer during this phaze os install you have to repack it...I think you need to because during setup .net fails to install, there is a reg trick you will find the in the config.txt of the no-gui sfx that you need to enableOther than that wait until you are logged in to install without problem Well the install process starts at the first login. 4.0 installs no problem, its only 4.51. that is asking me to restart when it is done installing. I never had this issues with your packages before, just recently. Quote
Malak101 Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) The "Silent "No GUI" SFX alternative" link is currently broken. Clicking it results in a 404 error from dropbox. Edited January 4, 2014 by Malak101 Quote
ricktendo Posted January 4, 2014 Author Posted January 4, 2014 Are you installing 4.0 along with 4.5.1? All you need it one No Gui sfx link fixed Quote
Ghost360 Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Are you installing 4.0 along with 4.5.1?All you need it oneNo Gui sfx link fixed Lol, I have both of your Slims Packs and I been install both. So I only need to install 4.51. and not 4? Could this be causing the issue? (Big Brain Fart) :nuke: Josh Quote
Malak101 Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) If you are going to use my .net 4.5.1 installer during this phaze os install you have to repack it...I think you need to because during setup .net fails to install, there is a reg trick you will find the in the config.txt of the no-gui sfx that you need to enableOther than that wait until you are logged in to install without problemI'm currently in the process of trying a repack but could you please be more specific about which reg entry needs to be enabled in the config.txt? Edited January 4, 2014 by Malak101 Quote
bphlpt Posted January 4, 2014 Posted January 4, 2014 Are you installing 4.0 along with 4.5.1?All you need it one Lol, I have both of your Slims Packs and I been install both. So I only need to install 4.51. and not 4? Could this be causing the issue? (Big Brain Fart) :nuke: Correct. 4.51 completely replaces 4.0. So you use one or the other, not both. Cheers and Regards Quote
ricktendo Posted January 4, 2014 Author Posted January 4, 2014 I'm currently in the process of trying a repack but could you please be more specific about which reg entry needs to be enabled in the config.txt?If you check the README.txt you will find the entries-If you are going to repack this installer for SVCPACK install enable ALL the following lines by removing semicolon in config.txt;RunProgram="hidcon:cmd /c reg copy HKLM\\SYSTEM\\Setup HKLM\\SYSTEM\\Setup\\SSIPRS /f";RunProgram="hidcon:cmd /c reg add HKLM\\SYSTEM\\Setup /v SystemSetupInProgress /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f"...;RunProgram="hidcon:cmd /c reg copy HKLM\\SYSTEM\\Setup\\SSIPRS HKLM\\SYSTEM\\Setup /f";RunProgram="hidcon:cmd /c reg delete HKLM\\SYSTEM\\Setup\\SSIPRS /f"...;AutoInstall*="hidcon:cmd /c reg copy HKLM\\SYSTEM\\Setup HKLM\\SYSTEM\\Setup\\SSIPRS /f";AutoInstall*="hidcon:cmd /c reg add HKLM\\SYSTEM\\Setup /v SystemSetupInProgress /t REG_DWORD /d 0 /f"...;AutoInstall*="hidcon:cmd /c reg copy HKLM\\SYSTEM\\Setup\\SSIPRS HKLM\\SYSTEM\\Setup /f";AutoInstall*="hidcon:cmd /c reg delete HKLM\\SYSTEM\\Setup\\SSIPRS /f"...ETC... Quote
55ttt Posted January 12, 2014 Posted January 12, 2014 Confused:Why is4.5.1 (for XP SP3) dated 10-17-2013 ?and4 (for win 7) dated 1-05-2014 ?The dates and versions seem to be switched around.And “the to be used for” seem to be switched around.And the tools mentioned in the OP can be used to modify this installer (add LPs) or make it into an add-on?And then use that add-on in AIO?Right? Thanks Quote
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