Section8 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) First sorry I thought I posted this in the requests section if it could be moved there that would be great.I just wanted to say great app recently I just bought win 7 x64 sp1 ultimate for my new rig I just built so I have to create another custom install haven't done one since rt7lite 1.7 first came out so its been awhile and for noobs like me a lot of of us we don't know what each component is or the consequences or removing them. A lot of them sound innocent and you have them green so why not check them? I personally Google everything before I check it, but even that doesn't tell you everything like what will happen if you remove it because they aren't expecting you to do that when they write those things.I remember from rt7lite, I went through probably 100 installs to get it just right for my needs. Just the small things like the Japanese language pack you got green as I said why not check it I don't speak Japanese and its green but that will break Microsoft Office, least it did and pretty sure it still does, or media player plus its stock codec packs why not I use PotPlayer and its green and I have my own codec packs but that will beak WinSAT. or the driver packs what will they do exactly if I check them like in rt7lite it would say like Common modem drivers then give you a sub category for that listing of all drivers and say you can remove everyone of these but this one or you'll never be able to install a modem or printer again.Which I do see you have them redded out and it says that now. Print and document services even if you don't have a fax or printer it will break fax and printing over the internet which can be rather handy especially if you are someone who uses a free telephone and fax service like through Google.Bunch other things in here I'm afraid to touch like indexing service remember that broke something maybe it dealt with winsat also not sure. Windows search I remember explicitly do not remove it, or it broke something really major its ok to disable it in services and i'd highly recommend doing so, but don't completely remove it or untick it in programs and features whatsoever that's another thing however that it's been so long I forget what that was gave me a headache for like a week though before figuring it out.Not really asking Legolash2o or anyone in particular to sit down and write some lengthy guide out but, maybe just a spot in the guides section where everyone that's used this app for awhile can just share there experiences with a particular component just like a quick one liner, so newer people can have an idea of the possibilities and think for themselves if they can go without that or not. The guides you have are great for learning how to use the app and its functions but its set up so user friendly even I was able to jump right into it before I even realized you had guides I stopped in here to look and see if I could find some of this info out.I Just figure everyone is different in there needs out of there system one person may be saying who cares about winsat just reghack aero in, winsat is usless but what if your not tech savvy and have just bought a ssd and dont know how to set it up or take care of it such as not defraging it winsat will do that for you it doesnt just do aero. Just one out of a million examples. I can read a countless online guides to everyones own best ideas of what to remove for a light stable OS and that is great for there personal needs not the needs of someone who may be reading that post.Anyways sorry for the long post as I said still a great app and hope you keep up the great work. I'd just like a little more info on things though if at all possible. Just so everyone can see what is important to them and if it breaks something, can they live without that other component in there daily lives or do they need it. Can be tireing searching google and reading documents especially when in the end you still wont know what will happen if you actuall uninstall something that was never ment to be uninstalled =P Edited October 24, 2012 by Section8 Quote
bphlpt Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) Wonderful post, absolutely wonderful! The reasons you mentioned are exactly why I choose to remove nothing at all, just disable what I don't want. With the sizes and prices of today's memory and disc drives, it just doesn't seem to matter as much as it used to to or be worth it to go to all the trouble and deal with all the potential hassles of removing components that might effect something you don't expect. Even though I hate the amount of bloat that today's OS have accumulated, it is much less trouble in the long run. Unless you are willing to spend the long period of time and do the detailed testing required to ensure the removals will not cause any problems in your system with your set of apps you like/need to use, you are much better off just leaving things alone. But a thread where everyone can post their experiences of what they discovered they should not remove, along with posting why, such as because it effects xxxx app, is a great idea and would be a good reference for those that want to try removals for whatever reason they feel they are necessary.Cheers and Regards Edited October 26, 2012 by bphlpt Quote
RicaNeaga Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) I will play with component removal after Lego will be moving probably to 1.6.0, and develop his app into this direction. And a guide only for Component Removal will be very easy to put together, especially if the app will have inside more info on each component. But I don't think of this as an urgency.I'm in the process of writing a guide for the whole Win Toolkit app (first in my native language, then I'll translate it in english and post it here), and when it comes to component removal my first ''recommendation'' is to remove as little as possible - for Home Premium for example only Anytime Upgrade and the folders (Support & Upgrade) are a ''must''.This will evolve with time, however my main goal won't be to make my Component Removal later (1.6.0) guide very stuffed with informations, but rather to ''convince'' Lego to include as much info as possible in his app, so more users would easier find out what removal of some stuff implies. Edited October 26, 2012 by RicaNeaga Quote
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