[14 Juin 2014] Updates Packs GDR Windows 7 SP1

[mooms]

J'ai l'impression que tu as du mal à me lire donc je récapitule:

 

les cabs de IE11 n'ont pas été maj par MS, donc KB2898785 est nécessaire.

 

Si je t'ai donné le lien de steven4554 c'est parce que deux des prérequis de ta liste sont obsolètes, tu ne les a donc visiblement pas pris là.

[MrPastore Paris SG]

je suis paumé, je comprends que l'on peut integrer ces mises a jour a un fichier iso windows 7 pro. Mais où sont les explications?

 

 

édit: j'ai trouvé a+

Edited December 14, 2013 by MrPastore Paris SG

[mooms]

Je viens de m'apercevoir que le leurre MRT x64 de ce mois-ci ne fonctionnait pas.

J'en ai profité pour fusionner les deux versions, maintenant le même fichier sera utilisé pour les deux architectures.

Le pack RunOnce a été mis à jour, si vous l'avez déjà téléchargé, voici le nouveau leurre MRT:

 

leurre_MRT_x86-x64.exe

MD5: a2dcc3a39d5c1234e7d2f9d2b4edfdb3

taille: 77,2 Ko

[projektilski]

Sorry for english language.

 

Mega link to 7SP1_X64_Pack_update_2013-12.rar is not working.

[mooms]

@projektilski: working fine here.

[thonny]

Salut mooms.

Grâce à tes packs et wintools j'ai une Win7 ultimate fonctionnelle (testé sur virtualbox).

Quelques questions.

-Est ce que je peux retravailler mon ISO ainsi crée c'est à dire rajouter au fur et à mesure des packs de mise à jour mensualisés par tes soins ?

De plus si des mises à jours sont obsolètes ou bien posent problèmes peut-on les effacer de l'iso ?

 

- Le pack de .Net 4.51 que conseilles tu ? dans ou hors de l'iso ?

 

Merci. A+

[mooms]

Salut thonny,

 

- Oui tu peux, mais personnellement je préfère repartir sur une base propre.

 

- Je conseille de le rajouter en dernier dans l'onglet silent install + SFX de Win Toolkit, mais il est possible de l'exécuter depuis n'importe quel support et à n'importe quel moment.

[thonny]

Ok. merci pour ces éclaircissements.

C'est vrai que refaire tout à zéro c'est pas insurmontable. ( j'ai mis 1h27)

Reste plus qu'à personnaliser un peu mieux.

[mooms]

Tu peux aussi décider de ne repartir de zéro qu'un mois sur deux si tu fais une image tous les mois.

La phase d'intégration est beaucoup plus rapide si tu travailles sur un SSD: environ 15 min pour une image x86.

[thonny]

J'ai bien un SSD qui héberge mes VM. Mais je l'ai pas utilisé ( suis allé trop vite au moment de la sélection du disque:) ).

Comme j'ai l'intention de réinstaller une version upgradé de Windows. J'ai essayé win tools à titre d'exercice. Sachant que les mises à jour sont plus longue que l'install elle-même.

Comme tout fonctionne nickel, je vais suivre ton conseil :une image tous les 2 mois au cas où.

[mooms]

Win Toolkit 1.4.29 est dispo et il gère correctement l'ordre de priorité de IE, ses addons et  ses maj, qui se retrouvent intégrés à la fin.

ça signifie que le renommage (z-) deviens inutile.

Il accepte aussi directement le setup (exe) de IE11, mais il n'est pas rajouté avec les autres maj, il faut le sélectionner à part.

 

Les packs IE11 s'en trouveront simplifiés.

 

 

Petite mise en garde si vous utilisez la v1.4.29 avec le pack IE11 de Décembre, supprimez z7- devant KB2898785, sinon la KB  sera installée avant IE11 et donc échouera.

[Thiersee]

@mooms

 

Hi,

sorry for asking in this thread, but I can't French:

 

I just downloaded your

7SP1_Pack_RunOnce_2013-12a.rar

and I saw there is a file leurre_MRT_x86-x64.exe.

 

What is this file for?

 

Thanks, Thiersee

[mooms]

Hi Thiersee,

 

It's a "lure" for Windows Update, it's goal is to save space on the install image: instead of installing the real MRT.exe (malicious removal tool), we "install" a dummy MRT.exe in System32 but much smaller.

 

We don't need the real one because the image is (supposedly) clean, and the real MRT.exe will be installed after a month anyway. (the lure it updated each month, like the real mrt).

 

The lure iself is made with Bat_To_Exe_Converter, the "installer" is a 7zip sfx that will copy the file in the right folder depending if executed on x64 or x86.

 

You can run the fake MRT.exe, it will do nothing except popping up a cmd window with some text (in French) explaining it is a lure.

 

edit: see this post for creating your own.

[mooms]

Changelog de Janvier 2014:

 

 

KB ajoutés:

KB2862330-v2 (remplace KB2862330-v1)
KB2913602 (remplace KB2893984)
KB2913431

KB supprimés:
KB2862330
KB2868623
KB2893984

Leurre MRT janvier 2014

 

 

Suppression des packs pour IE11, ils sont devenus inutiles depuis que Win Toolkit gère l'intégration avec le setup de IE11.

[Thiersee]

Hi mooms,

 

KB2855844 should also be added, it replaced KB2835361 (have a look here).

I integrated it and got no issues.

 

Thiersee

 

[mooms]

Hi Thiersee,

 

KB2855844 is in my list of superseded updates, but I don't remember why.

 

 

Since KB2855844 is not requested on Windows update, I don't see the need to add it in the pack(s).

 

Windows Update is my ultimate guide, not the security bulletins that are sometimes inaccurate and/or outdated.

[bphlpt]

... Windows Update is my ultimate guide, not the security bulletins that are sometimes inaccurate and/or outdated.

Just to play devil's advocate, surely you are not saying that WU/MU is never wrong.   (See http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/170814-fixed-kb2798897-comes-again/ for an example this month, which they did quickly fix.)

 

Cheers and Regards

[mooms]

No, but the goal of my packs is "WU satisfy", so as long as it is satisfied it is ok for me

[Thiersee]

Hi Thiersee,

 

KB2855844 is in my list of superseded updates, but I don't remember why.

 

 

Since KB2855844 is not requested on Windows update, I don't see the need to add it in the pack(s).

 

Windows Update is my ultimate guide, not the security bulletins that are sometimes inaccurate and/or outdated.

OK, but MS Update-Catalog says the same, KB2835361 has been replaced by KB2855844.....

And 2 (x86) or 3 (x64) updates more, I got from WU, as they have been published

 

KB2823180 (x86, contains KB2823180 and KB2809900)

KB2823180 (x64, contains KB2823180, KB2809900, KB2809215)

 

Thiersee

[mooms]

I don't know which edition of Windows 7 you're using, but it must differs of mine.

I use Home Premium and Professional for my test, on both arch for each.

 

I've made a test on Win7 Pro x64 in VirtualBox:

I've uninstalled KB2835361, rebooted, then tried to install KB2855844: I had an error saying the update is not for my computer (translated from French so the message can be a little different.).

If I do a Windows Update, it wants to reinstall KB2835361, no trace of KB2855844.

 

None of the updates KB2823180 contains are in my packs, and none are requested on WU.

[Thiersee]

I don't know which edition of Windows 7 you're using, but it must differs of mine.

Windows 7 Professional x64 german.

 

I've made a test on Win7 Pro x64 in VirtualBox:

I've uninstalled KB2835361, rebooted, then tried to install KB2855844: I had an error saying the update is not for my computer (translated from French so the message can be a little different.).

If I do a Windows Update, it wants to reinstall KB2835361, no trace of KB2855844.

What can I say? I did almost eaxctly the same, just now.

 

I made an integration with your x64-Pack without KB2835361 but with KB2855844: no issues, kb2855844 has been integrated and installed (VM); no request of KB2835361.

 

 

None of the updates KB2823180 contains are in my packs, and none are requested on WU.

This is strange, because I got the three updates by WU, at the patch-day MS published them;

may be also they have been token away from the list, no idea: they are not requested anymore by WU.

 

Anyway, thanks a lot for your packs, they are very nice to use.

And thanks  also for your patience.... !

 

Thiersee

[mooms]

You're welcome Thiersee.

 

I don't understand either why KB2855844 don't want to be installed.

It's not related with the VM because I've tried on real hardware and it refuse to install, and you've tried on VM and it installs....

Maybe a prerequisite is needed (unlikely since you said you're using my pack), or maybe it's something else....

The only obvious difference between you edition and mine is the language, can it be related ?

Windows is actually a "blackbox ", we don't really know what it does.

Sometimes, like now, I'm thinking of switching to Open Source OS....

[Thiersee]

Hi Thiersee,

 

KB2855844 is in my list of superseded updates, but I don't remember why.

 

 

Since KB2855844 is not requested on Windows update, I don't see the need to add it in the pack(s).

 

Windows Update is my ultimate guide, not the security bulletins that are sometimes inaccurate and/or outdated.

Now I know why: if KB2670838 is installed is KB2855844 superseded

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/19461-Windows-7-Hotfix-repository/page858

 

Thiersee

[mooms]

Indeed, good finding Thiersee !

 

We have once more the proof that infos on the security bulletins and Update Catalog can't be trusted blindly.

[Thiersee]

We have once more the proof that infos on the security bulletins and Update Catalog can't be trusted blindly.

This is the reason because I try every time to do a "cross" control.