x23piracy Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Hi, i have a Sandisk Extreme 32GB 3.0 Stick here and i cannot bring it to boot my custom windows 7.If i try the same procedure with an older 4GB USB 2.0 Stick it works. Has anyone experience with the Sandisk Stick? I specialy bougth it to boot windows from argh... Greetz X23 Edited February 24, 2013 by x23piracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Not with Sandisk Extreme, but with Super Talent Express ST4 32GB USB 3: no problem! Thiersee Edited February 22, 2013 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 just try it Presh F12 when bios boot.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compstuff Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 How exactly are you making the USB with the ISO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x23piracy Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 Hi, first i tried with wintoolkit and the sandisk didn't boot.then i tried the microsoft tool to create a usb stick, with that it boot but now i have a another mistake. Setup will find all hdds but will not install to any of it the error message is: I have to translate from german to english by myself...Setup cannot create a new system partition or find an existing partition to install to... But i see all the harddisks and i also can create or delete partitions on them but if i choose onepartition to install to i get the error message above... Damn i shouldn't bougth a usb 3.0 i should took a usb 2.0 one. What a bull****... (related to usb 3.0) I do the same procedure with an usb 2.0 stick anything works. Greetz X23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x23piracy Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 Hi, when i first boot with a prepared usb 2.0 stick and when the select partition dialog appears i switch the usb sticks2.0 against 3.0 (Sandisk 32GB) it works no error message. Maybe windows setup trys to install the bootloader on the sandisk stick instead of the hdd? Maybe winpe gives theusb 3.0 a drive letter internally? Greetz X23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bphlpt Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Since the USB 3.0 Stick should be USB 2.0 compatible, does the same thing happen if you plug your USB 3.0 Stick into a USB 2.0 socket? Because you might be having problems with USB 3.0 drivers not being available at setup. But I would think that in a USB 2.0 socket it should work. If it doesn't, to verify whether it is the USB situation or your build that is the problem, you could copy the EXACT same install that worked from your "older 4GB USB 2.0 Stick" onto your new "32GB 3.0 Stick" and see if that will install from the USB 2.0 socket. If it does, then there is something wrong with your new build. Cheers and Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x23piracy Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Hi, the system is usb 2.0 only... older hp workstation so only black usb ports no blue one.I will try to copy the blank windows 7 from the usb 2.0 stick to the 3.0 one. Greetz X23 Edited February 22, 2013 by x23piracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x23piracy Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 Hi, test is done i just copied the same contents from 2.0 to usb 3.0 stick and same error message.So iam sure my build is ok and this problem is something special with that usb 3.0 stick. 2 possibilities i think: - WinPE trys to install bootloader on the usb stick instead of hdd- WinPE gives the USB 3.0 a wrong assigned drive letter?! Any idea? Greetz X23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bphlpt Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 2 possibilities i think: - WinPE trys to install bootloader on the usb stick instead of hdd - WinPE gives the USB 3.0 a wrong assigned drive letter?!Assuming you wiped the USB and the build was the only thing on the stick, I can't see why either thing would happen. Very strange. Cheers and Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compstuff Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I definitely don't know why you are having this odd problem but here are some further comments: I have never been able to get the MS WIN7 USB tool to work with anything over a 4 gig stickI never used the WinToolKit USB tool so I have no experience with it, I have been using Rufus http://rufus.akeo.ie/I have never used a USB 3 stick but I can't see why it would be a problem since you are on a USB 2 system Maybe try Rufus and see if it changes the problem in anyway or maybe reformat the USB and start fresh again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x23piracy Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 Hi, i tried rufus and its still the same.Argh iam lost. Greetz X23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooms Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Maybe you USB3 stick is not bootable. Do you have tried in other USB ports ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x23piracy Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 Hi, Maybe you USB3 stick is not bootable. Do you have tried in other USB ports ? no i can boot from it but i cannot install ony any hdd, i get an error message (read above). Greetz X23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooms Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Sorry I had misread.I never used a USB3 or a more than 8GB stick to make an install, so I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x23piracy Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Seems that i bougth the wrong stick, sometimes well known things seems to be better...Hail to usb 2.0 Damn u USB 3.0 :bomb: I need at least a 16GB Stick, my image with essential drivers, all the updates and sfx i need and sad2 is 9,22GBIf it would be possible to have the apps and sad2 externally i may can come under 4GB but i think Windows 7 prowith every KB installed should break 4gb. I only have 4GB sticks (a mass) and one single 32GB Sandisk extreme. I get everything to work except the 32gb stick: - External USB 3.0 WD 2TB - Working- USB Stick USB 2.0 4GB Noname - Working- MicroSD Card in normal SDcard Adapter in a USB Cardreader - Working- External USB 3.0 Sandisk Extreme 32GB - NOT Working as explained above. To make the 32GB Stick work i tried, Wintoolkit, Microsoft USB Stick Tool, Unetbootin and Rufus.Booting will work with all the tool but in the moment i try to accept the hdd to install setup always tellsme it cannot create any partition or find one but i can see them all and i can create one or more butit never accepts next to go on. Is there a difference to the system if the usb device is detected as harddisk or usb stick? Greetz X23 Edited February 22, 2013 by x23piracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianymaty Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 What if you split the space and make a partition of 12-16 GB? Just try, it may work or not. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbound Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 you need to add in the usb3.0 drivers from driverpacks.net to your boot.wim. its looking for drivers for a usb 3 stick reguardless of it being plugged into a usb2 port. some usb3 drives are seen as a ssd and you need the drivers to get them to work. I might be headed down the wrong path for your problem but I'd start there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x23piracy Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Hi, should i take the third party usb 3.0 dp or the origin chipset dp ?mr_smartepants said: Most of these are already in DriverPack Chipset 12.02 Anyway i allready had the chipset dp 12.02 integrated into my test image.Should i also integrate the third party usb 3 pakage? What if a driver is allready in the image will it be replaced? or what will happen? EDIT: Well i said i allready had the chipset dp 12.02 integrated i didnt had the optionintegrate usb drivers to boot.wim checked, it seems this is needed? I can integrate the Stuff but i cannot test before monday, i have remote access to the machinebut its to much data to transfer to prepare the stick at home Greetz X23 Edited February 23, 2013 by x23piracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashfly Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Did you make the partition active on the USB 3.0 stick? I had a similar issue on one that I used. I used diskpart to clean and create the partition. I just happened to skip the step of making that partition active on the USB stick. Once I made the partition active, Win7 booted just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x23piracy Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 Hi, Did you make the partition active on the USB 3.0 stick? I had a similar issue on one that I used. I used diskpart to clean and create the partition. I just happened to skip the step of making that partition active on the USB stick. Once I made the partition active, Win7 booted just fine. and again i don't have a problem with a non booting stick that works in all cases, i just cannot go on in the setup in the position of choosing the partition to install, i can do anything i see every hd i can make partitions and delete them but i cannot click next... then setup tells me it cannot find or create any partition and this message is total bull****, must be another problem that cause this error message. Greetz X23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x23piracy Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Hi, i've now integrated usb driver to boot.wim (Driverpacks.net Chipset Pack) but the same nevermind iam using2.0 or 3.0 Interface the stick boots and later i cant go on in the partition to install chooose menu. ARGH! Greetz X23 Edited February 25, 2013 by x23piracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiktorynka Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Insert the flash drive Sandisk Extreme 3.0 on installation time to a USB 2.0 port and will not be a problem. The problem is missing drivers for the USB 3.0 controller before installing the system is not in the image of the system. Problem is not the stick. Edited February 25, 2013 by wiktorynka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x23piracy Posted February 25, 2013 Author Share Posted February 25, 2013 (edited) Hi, Insert the flash drive Sandisk Extreme 3.0 on installation time to a USB 2.0 port and will not be a problem. The problem is missing drivers for the USB 3.0 controller before installing the system is not in the image of the system. Problem is not the stick. the problem is the same at usb 2.0 ports, same error.Someone told me that the system is also searching for usb 3.0 driver even if i use a usb 3.0 stick on a usb 2.0 port. Also i have integrated all usb 3.0 drivers from the driverpacks.net chipset pakage into my boot.wim. Problem exists. And again my problem is not that the stick doesnt boot it boot very well but i cannot pass the setup at the stage where iselect a partition to install windows 7 to. The setup tells me it cannot create or find any partition to install. But i always see the harddisk and partition on any testsystem, i can create and delete partition but i can never klicknext, then the error message appears. Greetz X23 Edited February 25, 2013 by x23piracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiktorynka Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I have a Sandisk 32GB Extreme 3.0 and in my work without any problems installing the system. I see the only cause of this problem in the hardware specification. Sorry for my English I use google translator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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