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@Thiersee

 

Do you really think kb3022345 is necessary? :questionmark:

Its a Data collecting and Tracking tool without no benefits for the user or the system. Only MS does know which Data are collected and send to Redmond.

I don't know and I don't remember, if it was under "Critical" or "Optional"

 

I'll have a look tonight in a VM not yet updated.

Posted

Thank you Tiersee,

 

I made a test with 7 Pro French and April's UL updated with your informations.

I've made the integration with NTLite (first time testing it).

I have manually installed IE11 (NTLite crashed when I added the IE11 setup)

 

here is my remarks about IE11:

WU installed only KB3049563 and KB3021952, therefore KB3023607 and KB2976627 seems not needed anymore.

 

I will try a new integration with WinToolkit, with IE11 and without KB3023607 and KB2976627 to see if it was because of NTlite's removals.

Posted (edited)

Hi rhahgleuhargh,

 

KB3049563 replaces KB3038314

KB3023215

KB3032655

KB3048070 replaces KB2832414, KB2861191

KB3045171 replaces KB3034344, KB2957503, KB2835361

KB3046002 replaces KB2971850

KB3051768

KB3055642

KB3061518

KB3022345 replaces KB2882822

 

I made already some tests, based on UL 16-04-2015 plus KB3045645/KB3020369, it means without KB2533552 (integrated/installed, no matter):

 

1) After update by WU on x64, KB976932  has been requested: only 9.1 MB

 

I did exactly the same thing as you did, but in my case, after update by WU KB3013531, KB3020370, KB976932  and KB3048761 (optional) shows up.

After running deepscan those were uninstalled: KB2957503, KB3023607 and KB3045999

 

Then I ran updates again and of course we got back KB3021953 (5.2MB) duh!

 

Now  I am going to add  KB3013531, KB3020370 and I'll remove KB2957503, KB3045999

 

I'm using Win7 SP1 Pro x64

 

EDIT:

 

Actually, first...I'm going to add  KB3013531, KB3020370 & KB3048761 only and run a test.

Edited by dareckibmw
Posted

.....

I've made the integration with NTLite (first time testing it).

...

I don't use NTLite....

 

 

I have manually installed IE11 (NTLite crashed when I added the IE11 setup)

 

here is my remarks about IE11:

WU installed only KB3049563 and KB3021952, therefore KB3023607 and KB2976627 seems not needed anymore.

 

I will try a new integration with WinToolkit, with IE11 and without KB3023607 and KB2976627 to see if it was because of NTlite's removals.

I read somwhere that KB2976627 is needed only on non-english systems.

 

If you install with the UL and make a Deep Cleaning KB3023607 will be uninstalled, but after that WU requests KB3021952 (MS-logic....);

if you install without KB3023607 WU asks for KB3021952 too.

Posted (edited)

I did exactly the same thing as you did, but in my case, after update by WU KB3013531, KB3020370, KB976932  and KB3048761 (optional) shows up.

After running deepscan those were uninstalled: KB2957503, KB3023607 and KB3045999

 

Then I ran updates again and of course we got back KB3021953 (5.2MB) duh!

 

Now  I am going to add  KB3013531, KB3020370 and I'll remove KB2957503, KB3045999

 

I'm using Win7 SP1 Pro x64

 

EDIT:

 

Actually, first...I'm going to add  KB3013531, KB3020370 & KB3048761 only and run a test.

 

I have hidden all the updates related to future Windows 10...

 

Deep Cleaning uninstalls KB3023607 but WU asks then for KB3021952

 

KB976932: see post #560

Edited by Thiersee
Posted

 

I did exactly the same thing as you did, but in my case, after update by WU KB3013531, KB3020370, KB976932  and KB3048761 (optional) shows up.

After running deepscan those were uninstalled: KB2957503, KB3023607 and KB3045999

 

Then I ran updates again and of course we got back KB3021953 (5.2MB) duh!

 

Now  I am going to add  KB3013531, KB3020370 and I'll remove KB2957503, KB3045999

 

I'm using Win7 SP1 Pro x64

 

EDIT:

 

Actually, first...I'm going to add  KB3013531, KB3020370 & KB3048761 only and run a test.

 

I have hidden all the updates related to future Windows 10...

 

Deep Cleaning uninstalls KB3023607 but WU asks then for KB3021952

 

KB976932: see post #560

 

 

Ah I see, thanks!.....more tests to come, lol

Posted

Installation d'une version Ultimate x64

 

les KB 2835361, 2861191, 2957503, 2971850, 3034344 3038314 ont été supprimés

 

j'ai gardé les KB 3023607, 2533552, 3045599

 

cleanmgr n'a rien supprimé

Posted

I read somwhere that KB2976627 is needed only on non-english systems.

 

If you install with the UL and make a Deep Cleaning KB3023607 will be uninstalled, but after that WU requests KB3021952 (MS-logic....);

if you install without KB3023607 WU asks for KB3021952 too.

Thanks for the response.

I will try without KB2976627 and see if it is requested...

Posted

 

After update by WU on x64, KB976932  has been requested: only 9.1 MB ----> KB2533552: installing only this one the request disappears! It should mean KB2533552 is still needed or WU is buggy.

Me too..... :aggressive:

There are also reports about problems with kb3061518 (broken https request/connections, problem with IE). "good" job, MS :no:

Posted (edited)

Hi everybody!

 

Here my tests-results.

 

First of all, for both x86 & x64: I confirm my post #560 and that KB2533552 is still requested and KB3046269 has to be installed (Silent-Installers SFX).

 

One difference between x86 & x64:

KB3004375 has been uninstalled on x86, but on x64 is still requested.

 

One change for RDP 8.1:

if hotfix KB3042839 is integrated, then KB2994023 (in the UL) is uninstalled by Deep Cleaning;

for this hotfix I do not have a direct link to .msu, only to .exe (or download with WHD).

 

Regards, Thiersee

 

P.S.: I did NOT integrate the three KBs for Win 10, I hide them after installation.

Edited by Thiersee
Posted (edited)

Hi everybody!

 

My final tests in this week-end, both for VM and real HW; all the new updates (my post #560) inserted, all the replaced updates removed:

 

x86 HomePremium): after Deep Cleaning (KB3023607 uninstalled) NO request for KB3021952 by WU

 

x64 HomePremium & x64 Professional: after Deep Cleaning (KB3023607 uninstalled) NO request for KB3021952 by WU

 

KB3004375 still necessary on x64, no matter which version or language, otherwise WU asks for it and KB3031432 too; a integration try without this one confirmed it.

KB3046269 must be installed under "Silent Installers", not integrated!

KB2976627 & 3023607 not needed anymore (Hi Mooms ;)).

 

@ rhahgleuhargh:

if you need it, I can help modifying the ULs ;).

 

Regards, Thiersee

 

 

Edited by Thiersee
Posted

About: KB2533552

I made several tests on x86 and x64 and my best solution was to integrate it as the LAST Update in RunOnce.
After deep clean / ccleaner-clean, some reboots, etc. the SP1 parts was never requested again by WU

My best solution for the moment is to hide this updates:

KB2952664, KB3021917,  KB3035583 and KB3022345 completly.

This updates are only Win10/M$-Spyware related and brings me more problems and slows down my system

 

Posted

About: KB2533552

I made several tests on x86 and x64 and my best solution was to integrate it as the LAST Update in RunOnce.

After deep clean / ccleaner-clean, some reboots, etc. the SP1 parts was never requested again by WU

....

I've already said it...

 

 

My best solution for the moment is to hide this updates:

KB2952664, KB3021917,  KB3035583 and KB3022345 completly.

This updates are only Win10/M$-Spyware related and brings me more problems and slows down my system

You forgot KB2990214. it's W10-related too; anyway they are already in the UL as optional.

 

Thiersee

Posted

Hello,

ça y est j'ai enfin Internet... Du boulot m'attend, je suis en train de mettre à jour mes machines. Merci pour les retours, je vais faire en sorte de mettre à jour les ULs d'ici 48 h.

I'm back on the Web !

thanks guys for all your infos, I'm currently updating my computers, hope that ULs will be updated until 48 h.

Posted (edited)

12.05.2015:



Windows 7:

http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/8/0/E80AA0D5-6038-43D6-B185-F280E36296DF/IE11-Windows6.1-KB3049563-x64.msu
http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/F/E/5FE11464-4592-40BC-BE42-8830FDBD8A7B/IE11-Windows6.1-KB3049563-x86.msu

http://download.microsoft.com/download/7/7/F/77F162BC-9A0D-4716-915C-80FDE79EA3AA/Windows6.1-KB3023215-x64.msu
http://download.microsoft.com/download/7/7/F/77F162BC-9A0D-4716-915C-80FDE79EA3AA/Windows6.1-KB3023215-x86.msu

http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/7/0/07075A5B-7921-4E01-B71E-003EBB8C3893/Windows6.1-KB3032655-x64.msu
http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/7/0/07075A5B-7921-4E01-B71E-003EBB8C3893/Windows6.1-KB3032655-x86.msu

http://download.microsoft.com/download/B/8/D/B8D43117-586A-4866-A512-8F51A53DEB37/Windows6.1-KB3048070-x64.msu
http://download.microsoft.com/download/B/8/D/B8D43117-586A-4866-A512-8F51A53DEB37/Windows6.1-KB3048070-x86.msu

http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/0/B/80B3F4A4-E80F-4F7D-92A7-C2B7C7230F54/Windows6.1-KB3045171-x64.msu
http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/5/9/559742C6-8DE3-497D-8BD5-BC623C682FA1/Windows6.1-KB3045171-x86.msu

http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/A/1/2A1E3B5C-83CC-4C4C-BF7D-C91FB26ABE35/Windows6.1-KB3046002-x64.msu
http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/E/5/8E5761FB-CCE8-4ACC-9E46-B0950824BFB6/Windows6.1-KB3046002-x86.msu

http://download.microsoft.com/download/A/B/4/AB4A8C1C-15BD-4CC8-AA1E-F911FB26D83A/Windows6.1-KB3051768-x64.msu
http://download.microsoft.com/download/B/F/2/BF289BB2-EAC0-4932-B63A-6C859F7188F5/Windows6.1-KB3051768-x86.msu

http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/D/A/4DAA998D-1109-4A8B-9518-ED69C65120AE/Windows6.1-KB3055642-x64.msu
http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/E/1/8E10988B-4D5B-48A8-97F5-1374A1BDBD01/Windows6.1-KB3055642-x86.msu

http://download.microsoft.com/download/3/0/D/30DA5A7C-7C4C-4129-8AF3-4CB86CCB0799/Windows6.1-KB3061518-x64.msu
http://download.microsoft.com/download/F/E/1/FE1EC10F-D25F-443C-AAF9-FD7052BC9D4D/Windows6.1-KB3061518-x86.msu

http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/updt/2015/05/windows6.1-kb3022345-x64_a7284375095c9ea288c7aa5d4e5629f7b4ed9ad8.msu
http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/updt/2015/05/windows6.1-kb3022345-x86_c074cd0d81482258df749c0cb83fafdec75e3076.msu

 

The following links on thehotfixshare.net are not recognised by WUD :(

http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?autocom=downloads&req=download&code=confirm_download&id=20672KB3042839, 10.04.2015
http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?autocom=downloads&req=download&code=confirm_download&id=20673KB3042839, 10.04.2015
Mstscax.dll file leaks handles on a Remote Desktop Protocol 8.1 client in Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2

http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?autocom=downloads&req=download&code=confirm_download&id=19884KB3000056, 05.10.2014
http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?autocom=downloads&req=download&code=confirm_download&id=19885KB3000056, 05.10.2014
Hotfix rollup 3000056 for the .NET Framework 3.5.1 on Windows 7 SP1 or Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1

 

I send you the ULs in a PM.

 

Thiersee

 

Edit:

 

I did edit the spoiler!

Edited by Thiersee
Posted

Hello,

Changelog des ULs (fini en x86, reste à valider x64) :

Mises à jour devenues obligatoires du 27avril (elles étaient optionnelles avant) :

KB3013531

KB3020369

KB3045645

KB3020370

Pour mai :

IE 11 : KB3049563 remplace KB3038314. Suppression de KB2976627 et KB3023607 (enfin !).

Updates :

KB3045171 remplace KB3034344, KB2957503, et KB2835361

KB3046002 remplace KB2971850

KB3051768

KB3055642

KB3061518

KB3022345 remplace KB2882822

.Net FW 3.5.1 : KB3048070 remplace KB2832414, et  KB2861191 ; KB3023215  et  KB3032655

Additional Updates : KB3035583 a été mise à jour

En x86 : déplacement de KB3004375 vers la catégorie 2 elle est toujours demandée sur les éditions pro et ultimate. A vérifier pour x64.

En x86 et x64 : KB3046269 ne pouvant s'installer correctement qu'en RunOnce, en attendant une mise à jour de Wintoolkit, elle est renommée zWindows.....msu, et est à ajouter manuellement dans la section Silent installer.

Je poste la version x86 de l'UL, demain la version x64.

Posted (edited)

Merci rhahgleuhargh mais pour moi il manque 3 mises à jours en x86

 

 

Windows6.1-KB3054476-x86.msu

Windows6.1-KB3061518-x86.msu (je pense qu'elle doit être en runonce)

Windows6.1-KB2952664-v9-x86.msu (je pense qu'elle doit etre en runonce aussi)

 

Cela ferait donc 4 mises à jours à faire après

echo KB
start /wait %systemroot%\Setup\Scripts\Windows6.1-KB2533552-x86.msu /quiet /norestart
echo.
echo KB
start /wait %systemroot%\Setup\Scripts\Windows6.1-KB3046269-x86.msu /quiet /norestart
echo.
echo KB
start /wait %systemroot%\Setup\Scripts\Windows6.1-KB3061518-x86.msu /quiet /norestart
echo.
echo KB
start /wait %systemroot%\Setup\Scripts\Windows6.1-KB2952664-v9-x86.msu /quiet /norestart
echo.
Edited by kalimergo
Posted

KB3061518 is already in the list and will be normally integrated

KB2533552 & KB3046269 are not integrable offline and must be installed (no matter with silent-installer or script)

KB2952664 is under "Optional", everybody can decide to integrate it or not.

KB3054476 has been released on 20/5/15 after the test of the UL...

 

Thiersee

Posted (edited)

merci mais bizarrement Windows6.1-KB2882822-x86.msu est redemandé chez moi.... J'ai l'impression que certaines mise à jour ont été mal installée/désinstallée dans mon wim.

 

Total size of superseded packages: 21.20 MB (22,235,860 bytes)
2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info                  CBS    Microsoft-Windows-IE-Troubleshooters-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.7601.17514 superseded - uninstalled
2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info                  CBS    Microsoft-Windows-InternetExplorer-Optional-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~8.0.7601.17514 superseded - uninstalled
2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info                  CBS    Package_30_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled
2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info                  CBS    Package_30_for_KB3046049~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled
2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info                  CBS    Package_34_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled
2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info                  CBS    Package_34_for_KB3046049~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled
2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info                  CBS    Package_41_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled
2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info                  CBS    Package_41_for_KB3046049~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled
2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info                  CBS    Package_58_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled
2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info                  CBS    Package_58_for_KB3046049~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled
2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info                  CBS    Package_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled
2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info                  CBS    Package_for_KB3046049~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled
Edited by kalimergo
Posted

@kalimergo,

Chez moi, KB3054476 est proposée en mise à jour facultative, ainsi que KB3048761. Je ne l'ai donc pas mise dans la liste.

Je confirme que KB3061518 et KB2952664 v9 sont dans la liste (KB2952664 est dans les mises à jour additionnelles, relatives à la migration vers Windows 10).

Posted (edited)

merci pour le boulot que vous faites surtout que ça devient un vrai casse-tête. Ha si au moins on avait la formule pour créer un vrai service pack !

Edited by kalimergo
Posted

Hello,

Upload de l'UL en x64.

Je n'ai pas vérifié si KB3004375 était encore demandée sur les éditions Home, merci de me le signaler, auquel cas je la placerai dans la catégorie 2 comme en x86.

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