X-Force Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 Hi rhahgleuhargh, did you see this post on MDL regarding IE11?It does not come on WU, this is the article from MS: https://support.microsoft.com/de-de/kb/3072449/en-us. OK, it's an hotfix, but.... Thierseefor Windows 8.1, Windows RT 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows 8, Windows RT, or Windows Server 2012. Quote
Thiersee Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 ......for Windows 8.1, Windows RT 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows 8, Windows RT, or Windows Server 2012.......It's not completely thrue ! Quote
icare Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 Bonjour,test en réel x86 Starter :j'ai intégré toutes les mises à jour sauf RDP81 et version Pro ou Ultimatej'ai enlevé les 3 cab concernant WU car je n'ai pas compris le rapport entre la KB3050265 et W10résultat OK et KB2882822 et KB3045999 inutiles (DeepClean)nouvel essai en enlevant ces 2 KBtout est Ok et WU est passé en 7.6.7601.18847@+ Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted July 1, 2015 Author Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) @icare,Merci pour le retour, ça fait longtemps que je n'ai pas fait de test sur une édition starter !Pour les 2 KBs écrasées, c'est normal elles le sont par KB3050265. Je ne l'utilise pas sur mes tests non pas parce qu'elle elle semble nécessaire en vue de la migration vers Windows 10, mais surtout parce qu'elle entraîne une erreur SFC.Pour les .cab de WU, je ne sais pas s'ils ont été mis à jour depuis la version utilisée dans les ULs (je ne sais pas comment les récupérer).@Thiersee,As you said it's a hotfix... did you add it to your list ? Edited July 1, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
icare Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Bonjour, @rhahgleuhargh,on ne s'est pas compris : KB3050265 est la version 7.6.7601.18847 qui remplace donc les 3 fichiers cab.Je n'ai eu aucune erreur. @+ Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted July 1, 2015 Author Posted July 1, 2015 @icare,L'erreur observée est une erreur SFC scan, plusieurs posts en parlent sur le forum de MDL. je ne l'ai pas reproduite sur ma config (j'ai installé les mises à jour requises pour Win10, mais en bloquant la migration).Bon à savoir pour les .cab de WU écrasés par KB3050265. Je suis toutefois obligé de les laisser sur les ULs car nécessaires pour ceux qui ne veulent pas de KB3050265... Quote
abbodi1406 Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 The script require working internet connection Quote
Thiersee Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) 2 (optional) updates today: KB2952664-v11KB3065987 (supersedes KB3050265) Source: WU and MDL (Thank you abbodi1406). That means, the W10.vbs script must be changed... Thiersee Edited July 7, 2015 by Thiersee Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted July 7, 2015 Author Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Hello Thiersee,You just posted before I did !Script modified and uploaded.I'll update ULs at the next Patch Tuesday next week. Edited July 7, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
Samsunday Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Great thread and list. Thanks. Could someone kindly clarify what this underlined section means from the first post? What is a 'deep clean'? "These ULs have been tested in a VM with Professional edition of Windows 7 before publication. But if you use an other edition, some KBs may be useless (ex. : KB2973351 for Home Premium) ; in this case please perform a deep clean after installation." Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted July 7, 2015 Author Posted July 7, 2015 @Samsunday,"deep-clean" is a feature of Windows 7 that removes superseeded updates from your instalation, saving precious Mb or Gb !Just go to "computer", right-click on your System disk, and click on "properties", and click on "disk cleaner" (I don't know the exact term in english) ; check the option "clean system files", and you're done. Quote
Thiersee Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) On a fresh installed W7 x86 (VirtualBox) I installed first the hidden updates, then after restart I installed the two KBs and made a deep cleaning: KB3050265 has NOT been uninstalled! The question is now: superseded or not? More: WU is still asking for KB2952664 (only 24Kb); after installing and searching: WU is asking the same! I'll do more test tomorrow! Edit: (It' already a little bit tomorrow !) I confirm what I've written Fresh installed (x86), W10-related KBs not hidden, all KBs requested by WU installed, restart, after deep cleaning KB3050265 has not been uninstalledand KB2952664 has been requested again (only 24Kb, release date 09-06-2015!; seems to be only a small component of the KB). Edited July 7, 2015 by Thiersee Quote
Thiersee Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) Hi rhahgleuhargh, I made some more tests and (already posted on MDL too) installing only KB3065987 (KB3050265 not installed): WU asks for KB3050265;installing KB3065987 (KB3050265 installed): deep cleaning does not uninstall KB3050265!Is it superseded or not?KB2952664-v11:integrating/installing without KB2952664 at all: WU asks for both versions, -v10 (as important, release 09.09.2015) and -v11 (as optional, release 07.07.2015)! Installing both -v10 fails and WU asks again for -v10 but only with a size of 24KB.Integrating/installing with only -v11: WU asks for -v10 but with a size of 24 KB instead of 5-6 MB!It seems not to be very "clean".Tested only HomePremium x86 (VM). Thiersee Edited July 8, 2015 by Thiersee Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted July 8, 2015 Author Posted July 8, 2015 @Thiersee,On my real machine I've installed W10 required updates : after deep-clean KB3050265 is not deleted (it's not possible to uninstall it via control panel), and the 24 kb of KB2952664 is asked too.Let's wait for next update patch ! Quote
Thiersee Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) .......Let's wait for next update patch !It's better!In the meantime let's have some beers.....; :beerchug: BTW, I changed the W10.vbs on my own (added KB3065987); now KB2952664 is twice under "Hidden updates", once as "optional" and once as "reccomended" Edited July 8, 2015 by Thiersee Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted July 8, 2015 Author Posted July 8, 2015 @Thiersee,I've added KB3065987 but deleted KB3050265 in the updated script. I'll recheck that next week !Have a good beer ! Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted July 8, 2015 Author Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) @Alpha_95,Quelle erreur obtiens-tu ? Je n'arrive pas à ouvrir ta capture d'écran.As-tu bien mis le SFX en dernier sur la liste de Wintoolkit Installer ? As-tu sinon essayé de le lancer une fois le démarrage de la session terminée ?Lors de mon dernier test, j'avais l'impression que le script avait planté, mais une fois l'ordinateur redémarré et un tour sur WU, les mises à jour étaient bien masquées.Je n'ai pas le temps de refaire une intégration cette semaine, j'attends le prochain Update patch pour vérifier que le SFX fonctionne avec Wintoolkit installer, mais à priori mooms et Thiersee n'ont reporté aucun problème.Attention, il y aura encore sûrement des modifications à faire sur la liste des KB à bloquer avec le script, visiblement KB3065987 n'écrase pas KB3050265 sur nos tests. Edited July 8, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
Thiersee Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 New version KB3035583 released on yesterday.Already hidden :banned2: Quote
ikon Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 New version KB3035583 released on yesterday.Already hidden :banned2: me too :prop: Mig60 1 Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted July 11, 2015 Author Posted July 11, 2015 @X-Force,Yes, and KB2952664 is updated to V12. Hope this will correct the 24 Kb bug of WU.I'll wait tuesday to update the lists. Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted July 14, 2015 Author Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Hello,Voici ce que donne l'Update patch du jour, changelog identique x86 x64 :Windows 10 Updates : KB2952664 passe en V12, KB3065987 passe en v2 et remplace KB3050265, KB3035583 a été mise à jour.IE 11 : KB3065822 (elle est accompagnée par KB3074886 et KB3075516 sur le lien de WUC). Attention, KB3058515 n'est remplacée que sur les systèmes anglophones (cf ici).Updates : KB3057154, KB3067505, KB3067903, KB3069392 remplace KB3046306, KB3070102 remplace KB3057839, KB3072630 remplace KB3008627, KB3072633, KB3077657 remplace KB3032323. KB3040272 devient mise à jour prioritaire.RDP 8.1 : KB3069762 remplace KB3036493, KB3070738 remplace KB2994023. Le deep-clean sur une machine virtuelle nettoie : KB2918614, KB2978668, et curieusement KB3067505 !Je vais attendre qq jours pour publier les ULs. Edited July 15, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
abbodi1406 Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 Yes, KB3067505 is completely superseded by KB3057154 Quote
Thiersee Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) KB3067904 is also necessary for: 1) Enterprise or Ultimate2) All versions, if RDP 8.0 is installed (Note [1]) https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/MS15-067 Edit: IE 11 : KB3065822 (elle est accompagnée par KB3074886 et KB3075516 sur le lien de WUC). KB3074886 only for x86 (see details): https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=47974https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=47938 Edited July 15, 2015 by Thiersee Quote
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