pennsylvaniaron Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 rhahgleuhargh any idea why kb2813347 is asked as an important update on my win 7_64 HP vm by WU first time check? you said that update has to do with RDP which I do not integrate into my iso. if you're busy dont worry about it. Thx in advance for all your help. regards... Quote
chains1041 Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) rhahgleuhargh I have at least 120GB available on the drive when I am integrating and yes those 2 updates are in prerequisites. 64bit Win7 works good, though it seems WTK hangs when i close it now as well. Not sure why, maybe i need to reinstall windows or something. Edited March 21, 2017 by chains1041 Quote
pennsylvaniaron Posted March 21, 2017 Posted March 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, chains1041 said: rhahgleuhargh I have at least 120GB available on the drive when I am integrating and yes those 2 updates are in prerequisites. Though it seems WTK hangs when i close it now as well. Not sure why, maybe i need to reinstall windows or something. wow that's pretty drastic. The whole reason to make the iso is to install windows easily. without it win install is a big PAIN. while I have had my own issues, the one you're having is not one of them. You haven't given much info. are the updates in the correct order? 3125574 is the only update with a three (3-kb3125574) in front of it and naturally is in-between the 2's and 4's, so in the middle of the pack of updates. do not integrate 2532552. are you doing classic or convenience method? updates for _64 bit 2603229, 3046269, 3177467, 2685811, 2685813 go in silent section. if using home premium 3004375 not needed. hope that helps... regards... Quote
chains1041 Posted March 22, 2017 Posted March 22, 2017 setup a fresh vm and everything worked again. not sure what was wrong. super happy it works though Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted March 22, 2017 Author Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) 15 hours ago, pennsylvaniaron said: rhahgleuhargh any idea why kb2813347 is asked as an important update on my win 7_64 HP vm by WU first time check? you said that update has to do with RDP which I do not integrate into my iso. if you're busy dont worry about it. Thx in advance for all your help. regards... KB2813347 is an update for RDP 7.0, which is needed too when you want to integrate RDP 8.1. And since RDP 7.0 is already included in Windows 7 (?), that's certainly why it's asked by WU. But curiously, KB2813347 is superseeded by KB3075220 (in No RDP category) when you don't use RDP 8.1(I didn't make a test yet without RDP with Convenience Rollup integration method, but it is the case with Classic integration method). Abbodi1406 has certainly the good answer to this question. Is KB3075220 asked after KB2813347 in your case ? Is KB3019978 asked too as it's the case for Classic integration method ? if yes, I'll rename the Category. I allways integrate RDP 8.1 because : - it's very difficult to activate it if you didn't integrate it previously in the ISO (some KBs refuse to install, you need fist to uninstall noRDP category updates and integrate RDP 8.1 in the correct order, and it doesn't allways work), - this feature is enabled in 10 and 8.1, and is certainly more secured than previous versions (even if I don't use it). - Convenience Rollup includes some of required RDP 8.1 updates The only reason to not integrate it was when I installed 7 Starter Edition in my old Atom N270 1 GB RAM netbook (which switched quickly to Lubuntu that works very better !). Edited March 22, 2017 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
pennsylvaniaron Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 hope everyone's weekend is going well. I noticed on my VM that after installing the latest 3/14/17 UL created iso, when checking updates on WU in the OPTIONAL updates there is kb4012218, which is the march preview monthly rollup. how does this differ from kb4012215 which we integrated for March? regards... Quote
Thiersee Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, pennsylvaniaron said: .....when checking updates on WU in the OPTIONAL updates there is kb4012218, which is the march preview monthly rollup. how does this differ from kb4012215 which we integrated for March?.... MS releases a main rollup update on the 2nd tuesday (KB4012215) and a preview for the next month on the 3rd tuesday; for april it is KB4012218; if you install this preview, WU request a security patch for IE11 KB3185319. Edited March 25, 2017 by Thiersee Quote
pennsylvaniaron Posted March 26, 2017 Posted March 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Thiersee said: MS releases a main rollup update on the 2nd tuesday (KB4012215) and a preview for the next month on the 3rd tuesday; for april it is KB4012218; if you install this preview, WU request a security patch for IE11 KB3185319. thiersee that's what I thought but the rollup kb4012218 says its the MARCH preview, not the APRIL preview. This is very confusing since we just integrated March's rollup kb4012215... regards... Quote
Thiersee Posted March 26, 2017 Posted March 26, 2017 OK, ok! It's the rollup for April, released on the 3rd tuesday of March.. BTW, I wrote "a preview for the next month". Quote
pennsylvaniaron Posted March 26, 2017 Posted March 26, 2017 6 hours ago, Thiersee said: OK, ok! It's the rollup for April, released on the 3rd tuesday of March.. BTW, I wrote "a preview for the next month". Thiersee my beef is with MICROSOFT, unless I am misunderstanding. A "PREview" means BEFORE or something that is YET to come. So a PREVIEW KB such as kb4012218 released the 3rd Tuesday of MARCH should have in its description the following months name, in this case APRIL. But Microsoft names it a MARCH preview. (why because they release it in march??) I only bring this up because after I installed my MARCH iso with kb4012215 and then did a WU search for new updates, in the optional section of WU I saw this MARCH preview with kb4012218. At first glance since the kb's are only one number different (2215, vs 2218) I thought that for some reason my integrating of the real MARCH rollup (kb4012215) did NOT get integrated. Sorry if I am beating an old horse to death. I thought others who are reading and learning here might also get confused. Maybe its semantics. Once again thank you for all your help in the past. regards... Quote
Thiersee Posted April 11, 2017 Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) @rhahgleuhargh Updates for April 2017: KB4015549: replaces KB 4012215 and KB3156017 (Deep-Cleaning) KB4014981: it contains 4 single updates (have a look here); KB4014565 is the patch for .NET-FW 3.5.1. Depending on my wife (you know why), I'll try tomorrow an integration and report. Edit: Convenience Rollup Methode used. Edited April 11, 2017 by Thiersee Quote
X-Force Posted April 11, 2017 Posted April 11, 2017 KB4015549: replaces KB 4012215 and KB3156017 ++ (KB3146706 + KB3149090 + KB3126446) - (Tested x86 - Classic method) Quote
Pink_Freud Posted April 11, 2017 Posted April 11, 2017 After April updates x64 Pro Convenience method 2 .NFW updates KB2446710 & KB2478662 no longer asked by WU Spoiler X-Force 1 Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted April 12, 2017 Author Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) Thanks guys for report ! I just tested Convenience Rollup machine before my web connection hanged... Good news for DNF updates that are no more requested. Edited April 12, 2017 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
Thiersee Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 @rhahgleuhargh .NET-FW 3.5.1: KB4014565 should replace KB3210131 (in the UL) Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted April 12, 2017 Author Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) Hello, De mon côté, j'ai : Security Monthly Quality Rollup : KB4015549 remplace KB4012215, KB3156017, KB3118401, KB2676562, KB3123479 (common), KB3126446, KB3146706, et KB3149090 (classic) DNF 3.5.1 KB4014565 remplace KB3210131 Je confirme que KB2446710 et KB2478662 n'apparaissent plus dans la liste des mises à jour masquées pour le CR, les 2 scripts claasic.vbs et Rollup.vbs deviennent donc identiques (à tester toutefois). je n'ai pas encore fini de comparer toute la liste des mises à jour remplacées par KB4015549, il y en a un paquet ! Edited April 13, 2017 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
Pink_Freud Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 1 hour ago, rhahgleuhargh said: Hello, De mon côté, j'ai : Security Monthly Quality Rollup : KB4015549 remplace KB4012215, KB3156017, KB3118401, KB2676562 (common), KB3126446, KB3146706, et KB3149090 (classic) DNF 3.5.1 KB4014981 remplace KB3210131... KB4015549 also replaces KB3123479 (common) Spoiler rhahgleuhargh 1 Quote
Thiersee Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 @rhahgleuhargh Installed W7 x86 and x64, Convenience Rollup method, without the replaced updates (KB4012215, KB3156017, KB3118401 from your post and KB3123479 from @Pink_Freud's post): no issues, no requests from WU after installation and restart. BTW 1, if KB3118401 & KB3123479 are installed, they are not detected by Deep Cleaning; manually uninstalled without issues. BTW 2 Quote DNF 3.5.1 KB4014981 remplace KB3210131 You don't need to put KB4014981 in the list, KB4014565 (DNF 351-part of KB4014981) is enough. Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted April 13, 2017 Author Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) @Thiersee Oops, it was a copy/paste error, I only putted KB4014565 in the list. I'll edit my post. Thanks for the test. It's surprising that some updates not needed anymore are not deleted by deep-clean. I finished to search superseeded updates. I begin the tests ! Edited April 13, 2017 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted April 14, 2017 Author Posted April 14, 2017 Hello, ULs uploadées. Merci pour les retours ! Mise à jour de l'archive pour masquer les mises à jour vers W10/Télémétrie avec un script unique. Quote
Thiersee Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 31 minutes ago, rhahgleuhargh said: ..... Mise à jour de l'archive pour masquer les mises à jour vers W10/Télémétrie avec un script unique. I don't see any difference to the previous from sep 2016... Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted April 14, 2017 Author Posted April 14, 2017 @Thiersee Please try again, you probably downloaded it before the file was updated ! Quote
Thiersee Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, rhahgleuhargh said: @Thiersee Please try again, you probably downloaded it before the file was updated ! That was! THX Quote
Thiersee Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 (edited) @rhahgleuhargh Quote Mise à jour de l'archive pour masquer les mises à jour vers W10/Télémétrie avec un script unique. Downloaded and tested: the generated .exe doesn't work, because of a small error in the file Telemetry.cfg. RunProgram="Classic.vbs" instead of RunProgram="Telemetry.vbs" ! After correction it works. Frohes Osterfest. Edited April 15, 2017 by Thiersee Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted April 15, 2017 Author Posted April 15, 2017 @Thiersee Correction done ! I really need a new brain... Frohes Osterfest ! Quote
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