pennsylvaniaron Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) On 11/14/2017 at 4:53 PM, Thiersee said: Patch-Day 14.11.2017: KB4048957, replaces KB4041681 and KB3181988 (by Deep Cleaning). Tests are running. thiersee what about kb4049016? NFW rollup... regards... Edited November 15, 2017 by pennsylvaniaron Quote
Thiersee Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 I don't get it in WU, may be because I use NFW 4.7.1. Regards Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted November 16, 2017 Author Posted November 16, 2017 15 hours ago, J.J. said: Not sure if this was intentional but I (actually NTLite) found a duplicate update in your list. The "2-Windows6.1-KB3004375-v3-x64" update is located in "Common Convenience Rollup and Classic integration Updates" AND "Classic integration Updates (Professional, Ultimate, and Enterprise Editions ONLY)" categories. Im running Professional Edition, so I integrate either way. If it is truly Pro and higher only then some may not need. Hello, Yes, it was intentional. It was too complicated to create an other category for Convenience Rollup integration only for 1 update (with this integration method, only KB3004375 is needed with Professional Edition, not the 2 others), so I placed it 2 times. I'll upload new ULs this evening, good news that this forum works again! Changelog : KB4048957 replaces KB4041681 and KB3181988 ; new version of KB2952664 v13 (Telemetry Updates). @pennsylvaniaron KB4049016 wasn't asked in my configurations. Prbably due to the fact I use DNF4.7.1 too. Quote
phaolo Posted November 25, 2017 Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) Oh yes, I managed to find this thread again! I used this list with WUD 2 years ago to create a custom WIN7 (eng) iso. This should be sticked in the international part too! Now I'll use the list again to update the OS with the new patches, avoiding all MS crap. Thank you for still maintaining it! P.s: is the script "Hide Win10kbs" still needed? Edited November 25, 2017 by phaolo Quote
mooms Posted November 25, 2017 Posted November 25, 2017 If you want to update the OS and not an integration, you could use the Simplix Update pack, all telemetry and other crap are removed. Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted November 26, 2017 Author Posted November 26, 2017 23 hours ago, phaolo said: P.s: is the script "Hide Win10kbs" still needed? Hello, Yes it is. Otherwise telemetry updates will be installed at next WU round. phaolo 1 Quote
phaolo Posted December 3, 2017 Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) On 11/26/2017 at 5:50 PM, rhahgleuhargh said: Hello, yes it is. Otherwise telemetry updates will be installed at next WU round. Thank you, but is the telemetry list updated? (at least until April) It contains only 5 patches, but elsewhere I found more entries. Also, do you plan to update the main list this December? And question: can WUD detect already-installed patches? Edited December 3, 2017 by phaolo Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 3, 2017 Author Posted December 3, 2017 @phaolo I'm not sure if all components of telemetry are blocked, since security quality monthly rollup contains some telemetry scripts. But required updates to make telemetry working are not installed if you use the script. Some other telemetry updates non included in Simplix Update Pack are not included in ULs. But remind that on a live system,if a blocked KB is updated, even if masked by the script, it will be proposed by WU, so you'll have to rehide it manually. If you want a 100% clean update (but to my opinion I really doubt that it is possible), you can use Simplix Update Pack, or a program such as Spybot antibeacon (I use it with Windows 10). No, WUD can't detect already installed patches, it just downloads a list of updates via M$ servers. Quote
phaolo Posted December 3, 2017 Posted December 3, 2017 3 hours ago, rhahgleuhargh said: @phaolo I'm not sure if all components of telemetry are blocked, since security quality monthly rollup contains some telemetry scripts. [..] If you want a 100% clean update (but to my opinion I really doubt that it is possible), you can use Simplix Update Pack Damn, that's an important info. I guess that I'll have to use SUP, even if I would have preferred to get the good patches directly from MS and clean the monthly rollups with some guide. Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 3, 2017 Author Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, phaolo said: Damn, that's an important info. I guess that I'll have to use SUP, even if I would have preferred to get the good patches directly from MS and clean the monthly rollups with some guide. in this case, don't forget to reapply updated Simplix pack each month with the view to disable updated scripts from Monthly cumulative update... a little bit complicated ! I think that the simplest solution is to block the link between telemetry services and M$ servers (Spybot or other telemetry blocker programs). Edited December 3, 2017 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 6, 2017 Author Posted December 6, 2017 Hello, Chose curieuse, le fait d'avoir installé manuellement la dernière mise à jour cumulative (pour éviter de la retélécharger sur chaque machine virtuelle) a complètement désactivé WU qui est irréparable sur mes 4 VM. Je referai une installation neuve pour les machines en Convenience Rollup au prochain Update patch. J'espère pouvoir identifier malgré tout les mises à jour inutiles sur les installations classiques... Quote
cyberyeye Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 https://www.askwoody.com/2017/windows-update-in-win7-now-appears-to-be-working-properly/ peut-être à cause de ce bug ? Si tu est impacté par ce bug (?) il suffit de régler la date avant décembre (genre 25 nov) puis faire une recherche wu. A priori ce bug est régler depuis hier (5/12) de mon coté la recherche WU est à nouveau ok. J’espère ne pas t'induire en erreur, peut-être est-ce problème complétement différent mooms and Pink_Freud 2 Quote
mooms Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 J'ai eu le même problème (freeze du panneau de config lorsque je clique sur Windows Update). La solution: Arrêter le service Windows Update (soit depuis le panneau des services, soit en ligne de commande net stop wuauserv), puis le relancer (net start wuauserv). Aller dans les paramètres de Windows Update (qui ne devrait plus freezer) et choisir ne jamais rechercher de mise à jours, puis cliquez sur rechercher des mises à jours. Une fois cela fait vous pouvez remettre les paramètres en auto, il va alors rechercher à nouveau les mises à jours. En anglais: One tweak that saves a reboot: Open Windows Update. It freezes. Close Windows Update with Task Manager. Open a CMD prompt. Stop WinUp Service (net stop wuauserv). Start WinUp Service (net start wuauserv). Open Windows Update. This time the Windows Update box shows. Set settings to “Never check…). Click OK. Click Check for Updates. Reset to your default Windows Update settings. Note that when you reset the settings, Windows Update will run a new update scan. (grrrr) Source (merci à @cyberyeye pour le lien) Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 7, 2017 Author Posted December 7, 2017 OK, merci pour l'info, je vais tester ça ! Quote
phaolo Posted December 7, 2017 Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, rhahgleuhargh said: [..] Oh well, I've decided to use the original files. I already have patches till 2015\12, so I'll just download the new hotfixes according to Simplix's list. I can't use the "Monthly Rollup" due to the telemetry, however, so I'm going to get all the "Security Only" patches (from 2016\04). Incredibly, MS has a convenient site for this: https://portal.msrc.microsoft.com/en-US/security-guidance Btw, do you know if Netframe and IE (cumulative) patches contain crap too? Edited December 7, 2017 by phaolo Quote
mooms Posted December 7, 2017 Posted December 7, 2017 If you're concerned about the telemetry, you should use simplix update pack. Quote
phaolo Posted December 7, 2017 Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, mooms said: If you're concerned about the telemetry, you should use simplix update pack. Eh, the problem is that I don't trust very much a pack assembled by some random guy.. Edited December 7, 2017 by phaolo Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 8, 2017 Author Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) @phaolo .Net updates don't contain any telemetry crap. I don't think IE is concerned (I don't use it). Don't be so worry about telemetry, since you don't install the ones excluded, telemetry doesn't work. I'm pretty sure that your phone OS and/or apps contain more telemetry crap than windows ! Edited December 8, 2017 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 8, 2017 Author Posted December 8, 2017 @mooms J'ai suivi les instructions d'arrêt et redémarrage de WU : OK ! Merci ! Quote
phaolo Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 23 minutes ago, rhahgleuhargh said: @phaolo .Net updates don't contain any telemetry crap. I don't think IE is concerned (I don't use it). Don't be so worry about telemetry, since you don't install the ones excluded, telemetry doesn't work. I'm pretty sure that your phone OS and/or apps contain more telemetry crap than windows ! Probably, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't try to avoid it whenever it's possible, expecially on a computer. I don't use IE since decades too, but I'd prefer to patch it anyway, since it's part of the OS (sadly). Anyway, thanks for the info. Quote
mooms Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 16 hours ago, phaolo said: Eh, the problem is that I don't trust very much a pack assembled by some random guy.. It's scrutinized, if something harmful was inside, we would know. Based on your level of paranoia, I think you should ditch Windows and install a GNU/Linux instead. 4 hours ago, rhahgleuhargh said: @mooms J'ai suivi les instructions d'arrêt et redémarrage de WU : OK ! Merci ! Quote
phaolo Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 2 hours ago, mooms said: It's scrutinized, if something harmful was inside, we would know. Based on your level of paranoia, I think you should ditch Windows and install a GNU/Linux instead. I'll probably have to at a certain point, but it's a PITA that I try to postpone as much as possible. It's good that you check every release of the pack, though. Quote
mooms Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 2 hours ago, phaolo said: It's good that you check every release of the pack, though. I don't, actually I only used it twice, but there is a thread on MDL about the pack, and most of the users are of the paranoid kind, so if something was added it would be noticed. Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 13, 2017 Author Posted December 13, 2017 Hello, Pas grand chose de nouveau ce mois-ci : KB4054518 remplace KB4048957. ULs mises à jour. mooms 1 Quote
phaolo Posted December 16, 2017 Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) Ok, I installed all patches myself and so far it seems to have worked. 2016_01 - 2017_12 Win7 x64 updates: win7_kb3108664_also_3110329.msu win7_kb3108664_also_3121461.msu win7_kb3109560.msu win7_kb3126587.msu win7_kb3138612.msu win7_kb3138910.msu win7_kb3139398.msu win7_kb3139914.msu win7_kb3140245.msu win7_kb3147071.msu win7_kb3149090.msu win7_kb3150220.msu win7_kb3155178.msu win7_kb3156016.msu win7_kb3156019.msu win7_kb3159398.msu win7_kb3161102.msu win7_kb3161949.msu win7_kb3161958.msu win7_kb3168965.msu win7_kb3177467.msu win7_kb3179573.msu win7_kb3185911.msu win7_sopack_kb3192391.msu win7_sopack_kb3197867.msu win7_sopack_kb3205394.msu win7_sopack_kb4012212.msu win7_sopack_kb4019263.msu win7_sopack_kb4019990.msu win7_sopack_kb4022722.msu win7_sopack_kb4025337.msu win7_sopack_kb4034679.msu win7_sopack_kb4038779.msu win7_sopack_kb4041678.msu win7_sopack_kb4048960.msu ie11_kb4052978_cumulative.msu 2016_01 - 2017_12 Netframe updates: netframe_351_sp2_kb3072305.msu netframe_351_sp2_kb3122648.msu netframe_351_sp2_kb3127220.msu netframe_351_sp2_kb3163245.msu netframe_351_sp2_sopack_kb4014985_patch_kb4014573.msu netframe_351_sp2_sopack_kb4019108_patch_kb4014579.msu netframe_351_sp2_sopack_kb4040966.msu netframe_46_setup.exe netframe_46x_sopack_kb4014985_patch_kb4014558.exe netframe_46x_sopack_kb4019108_patch_kb4014591.exe netframe_46x_sopack_kb4040966_patch_kb4040957.exe netframe_461_kb3143693.exe netframe_461_kb3164025.exe These didn't work for some reason (not applicable) win7_sopack_kb3212642 netframe_45x_sopack_kb4014985_patch_kb4014566.exe netframe_45x_sopack_kb4019108_patch_kb4014599.exe netframe_45x_sopack_kb4040966_patch_kb4040960.exe netframe_46x_sopack_kb4014985_patch_kb4014552.exe netframe_46x_sopack_kb4019108_patch_kb4014588.exe netframe_462_kb3205406.exe Do you know if the new security-only pack is clean from crap too? win7_sopack_kb4054521.msu Edited December 16, 2017 by phaolo Quote
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