rhahgleuhargh Posted December 5, 2014 Author Posted December 5, 2014 @ryback,l'argument silencieux des SFX d'icare est /y. Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 9, 2014 Author Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Hello,Voici ce que donne le Patch tuesday ce mois-ci : Changelog identique x86/x64 :IE 11 : KB3008923 remplace KB3003057 Updates : KB3013126 remplace KB2929755KB3006121 KB3006625KB3009736KB3013410 remplace KB2998527KB3014406KB2952664 passe en v7KB3004394 EDIT 11-12-2014 : KB retirée par MS. Pour ceux qui l'avaient installée via WU, mieux vaut la désinstaller. Edited December 11, 2014 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
Pink_Freud Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) ...KB2952664 passe en v7 Thank you for this information, I did not see this. If I may please ask, from where did you find this information (v7)? Edited December 9, 2014 by Pink_Freud Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 9, 2014 Author Posted December 9, 2014 @Pink_Freud,KB2952664 is often asked by WU (just perform a deep clean after WU and you'll see that the previous version is deleted) ; I just checked the KB version in Windows Update Catalog website. Quote
Thiersee Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 .........IE 11 : KB3008923 remplace KB3003057 ( ?) à vérifier s'il remplace aussi KB2976627 ?.........I think it does NOT replace KB2976627! I just tested on W7 Prof x64 (real HW) without KB2976627, installed before 30-11: WU asked for KB3008923 AND KB 2976627. Thiersee Quote
Pink_Freud Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) @Pink_Freud,KB2952664 is often asked by WU (just perform a deep clean after WU and you'll see that the previous version is deleted) ; I just checked the KB version in Windows Update Catalog website.Thank you for reply. 2952664 v7 was not offered thru WU... I dl'd v7 from catalog, uninstalled v6 rebooted & installed v7. As for KBKB3008923... IE 11 : KB3008923 remplace KB3003057 ( ?) à vérifier s'il remplace aussi KB2976627 ? Installed KB3008923 thru WU (along with 8 other updates & MSRT) rebooted & ran deepclean... KB3003057 was not cleaned up :dizzy: "skipped...due to applicability" Edit KB # 3008923 2014-12-09 16:41:58, Info CBS Skipping: Package_for_KB3003057~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~11.2.1.0 due to applicability Edited December 10, 2014 by Pink_Freud Quote
Pink_Freud Posted December 9, 2014 Posted December 9, 2014 I think it does NOT replace KB2976627! I just tested on W7 Prof x64 (real HW) without KB2976627, installed before 30-11: WU asked for KB3008923 AND KB 2976627. Thiersee Same here, tested on VM, same result as Thiersee. Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 10, 2014 Author Posted December 10, 2014 Hello,La mise à jour en v7 de KB2952664 a été proposée via WU sur mes 3 machines réelles (7 Intégrale x64, 7 pro x86, et HP x86), et virtuelles (7 pro x86 et x64). Ou alors c'est moi qui vient d'une autre constellation !Il y a toujours un retard de délai entre les mises à jour proposées et leur publication, je n'ai d'ailleurs pas pu avoir d'info sur la plupart des KB du mois hier soir.De toute façon, je n'ai pas encore testé les UL en MV, donc pas de panique.Pour IE 11 je vais voir si en n'intégrant que KB2972667 et KB3008923 il y a un bug, sinon je verrai en rajoutant KB3003057. Quote
Thiersee Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 KB2952664-v7 has not been asked by WU on my PCs (real Hardware and VM); installed was version 6. Thiersee P.S.: Google Translate says: "Dans mon PC (matériel réel et VM) ne était pas requise par la version WU 7; a été installé la version 6." Is it OK ? Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 10, 2014 Author Posted December 10, 2014 "Dans mon PC (matériel réel et VM) ne était pas requise par la version WU 7; a été installé la version 6." Is it OK ? :D :crying_anim02: Not really, but it's understandable !!!No matters if this V7 was asked or not. To my opinion, if a new version has been published, UL should integrate the latest one. Quote
Thiersee Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) "Dans mon PC (matériel réel et VM) ne était pas requise par la version WU 7; a été installé la version 6." Is it OK ? Not really, but it's understandable !!!No matters if this V7 was asked or not. To my opinion, if a new version has been published, UL should integrate the latest one. OK, ok..... :dancing:But now to serious things! I did some test with the updates from patch day (4-5 times integrated and installed) and found out: 1) KB3004394 seems NOT to be integratable!After I integrated it together with all the other updates, all has been installed "correctly", but after a search on WU it was NOT possible to install any other KB, no matter which one!After a new integration without KB3004394 no problems any more!May be, you can put it together with the other "not integratable" 2) Since today WU is asking for KB3006625 (critical, not optional!); there are only two problems with this update: a.) It seems not to be integratable Prerequisites To apply this hotfix, you must be running Windows 7 SP1 or Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976932) b.) It is NOT possible to install it on ALL my PCs (real HW and VM), error is 800706F7; I think because I'm NOT in a domain and the update is for machines in a domain..... Again did Microsoft this month a "beautyful" job.... :ranting: Thiersee Edited December 10, 2014 by Thiersee dareckibmw 1 Quote
dareckibmw Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 @ThierseeYou beat me to it! .....something was messing up my new compilation since yesterday.....Im in process to removing KB3004394 and run a test again. Also, I have found more info about this error ~15 min ago http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/354776-windows-diagnostic-tool-error-0x800706f7.html Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 10, 2014 Author Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) @Thiersee,I made a test in x86 configuration, (but forgot to integrate KB3004394) : all is OK ; for IE 11 we need KB2976627 and KB3008923, but not KB3003057.I'm actually testing x64 UL.For KB3004394, you can't install any KB after it via WU ?? did you try to install it in RunOnce ?I didn't encounter any bug with KB3006625 during my test on x86 VM and on real machines x64 and x86 (I don't have any domain configuration). EDIT : I stopped my test for x64 config, I'll add KB3004394 with Wintoolkit installer. Edited December 10, 2014 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
dareckibmw Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 @Thiersee,I made a test in x86 configuration, (but forgot to integrate KB3004394) : all is OK ; for IE 11 we need KB2976627 and KB3008923, but not KB3003057.I'm actually testing x64 UL.For KB3004394, you can't install any KB after it via WU ?? did you try to install it in RunOnce ? Im working with x64 only.... I used whole pack from last month and I started installing those 8 manually (in vmware) ....after KB3004394 I couldnt install anything else, so I uninstalled it, rebooted and then rest of them went in smooth. Quote
Pink_Freud Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) 1) KB3004394 seems NOT to be integratable! KB3004394 (x64) integrates with no problem for me (tested in VM) 2) Since today WU is asking for KB3006625 (critical, not optional!); there are only two problems with this update: KB3006625 is one of 27 updates I have hidden, along with MSE, Silverlight & Bing crap Save as (your_filename_here).vbs ' Maxpsoft May 30, 2013, 9:34:15 PM' 06/18/2013 Add extra for Bing Desktop v1.3' 06/28/2013 Updated to continue searching as long as it is finding something otherwise Quit'' Original Mike.Moore Dec 17, 2012 on answers.microsoft but when ran it Hide everything so no good.' Link to script: http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/163162-hide-bing-desktop-and-other-windows-updates/' You may freely use this script as long as you copy it complete and it remains the same except for adjusting hideupdates.' If I need to change something then let me know so all may benefit.Dim WSHShell, StartTime, ElapsedTime, strUpdateName, strAllHiddenDim Checkagain 'Find more keep going otherwise QuitDim hideupdates(28) 'TO ADD 1 EDIT THE (#) AND ADD another hideupdates(#)hideupdates(0) = "Silverlight"hideupdates(1) = "KB2506928"hideupdates(2) = "KB2545698"hideupdates(3) = "KB2660075"hideupdates(4) = "KB2709630"hideupdates(5) = "KB2719857"hideupdates(6) = "KB2732059"hideupdates(7) = "KB2761217"hideupdates(8) = "KB2773072"hideupdates(9) = "KB2799926"hideupdates(10) = "KB2800095"hideupdates(11) = "KB2843630"hideupdates(12) = "KB2846960"hideupdates(13) = "KB2853952"hideupdates(14) = "KB2891804"hideupdates(15) = "KB2893519"hideupdates(16) = "KB2913152"hideupdates(17) = "KB2918077"hideupdates(18) = "KB2919469"hideupdates(19) = "Microsoft Security Essentials"hideupdates(20) = "KB2928562"hideupdates(21) = "KB2970228"hideupdates(22) = "KB2977728"hideupdates(23) = "KB2980245"hideupdates(24) = "KB2985461"hideupdates(25) = "KB2998527"hideupdates(26) = "KB3006121"hideupdates(27) = "KB3006625"hideupdates(28) = "KB3009736"Set WSHShell = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")StartTime = Timer 'Start the TimerSet updateSession = CreateObject("Microsoft.Update.Session")updateSession.ClientApplicationID = "MSDN Sample Script"Set updateSearcher = updateSession.CreateUpdateSearcher()Set searchResult = updateSearcher.Search("IsInstalled=0 and Type='Software' and IsHidden=0")Checkagain = "True"For K = 0 To 10 'Bing Desktop has 4, Silverlight has 5If Checkagain = "True" ThenCheckagain = "False"CheckUpdatesParseUpdatesEnd ifNextElapsedTime = Timer - StartTimestrTitle = "Bing Desktop and Windows Updates Hidden."strText = strAllHiddenstrText = strText & vbCrLf & ""strText = strText & vbCrLf & "Total Time " & ElapsedTimeintType = vbOkOnly'Silent just comment these 2 lines with a ' and it will run and quitSet objWshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")intResult = objWshShell.Popup(strText, ,strTitle, intType)'Open Windows Update after remove the comment ''WshShell.Run "%windir%\system32\control.exe /name Microsoft.WindowsUpdate"Set objWshShell = nothingSet WSHShell = NothingWScript.QuitFunction ParseUpdates 'cycle through updatesFor I = 0 To searchResult.Updates.Count-1Set update = searchResult.Updates.Item(I)strUpdateName = update.Title'WScript.Echo I + 1 & "> " & update.TitleFor j = 0 To UBound(hideupdates)if instr(1, strUpdateName, hideupdates(j), vbTextCompare) = 0 thenElsestrAllHidden = strAllHidden _& vbcrlf & update.Titleupdate.IsHidden = True'Checkagain = "True"end ifNextNextEnd FunctionFunction CheckUpdates 'check for new updates cause Bing Desktop has 3Set updateSession = CreateObject("Microsoft.Update.Session")updateSession.ClientApplicationID = "MSDN Sample Script"Set updateSearcher = updateSession.CreateUpdateSearcher()Set searchResult = _updateSearcher.Search("IsInstalled=0 and Type='Software' and IsHidden=0")End Function Edited December 10, 2014 by Pink_Freud Quote
Thiersee Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 @ThierseeYou beat me to it! .....something was messing up my new compilation since yesterday.....Im in process to removing KB3004394 and run a test again. Also, I have found more info about this error ~15 min ago http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/354776-windows-diagnostic-tool-error-0x800706f7.htmlI've found the thread too, thanks! @rhahgleuhargh For KB3004394, you can't install any KB after it via WU ?? did you try to install it in RunOnce ?Exactly!No, I didn't try it. I didn't encounter any bug with KB3006625 during my test on x86 VM and on real machines x64 and x86 (I don't have any domain configuration)I'll continue trying it. Thiersee Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted December 10, 2014 Author Posted December 10, 2014 I think the most intelligent thing to do is to wait some days before publishing ULs : if there is such a bug with KB3004394, MS will probably remove it. I've placed it in my "quarantine" section of ULs.Except this KB, x86 UL is validated.Integration of x64 KBs is very long, I'll have the results of my test tomorrow. Quote
Pink_Freud Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 Another thread @SevenForums reporting sfc /scannow bug with KB3004394 seemingly the culprit:http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/354850-sfc-found-corrupt-files-after-windows-update-never-had-any-before-2.html#post2956299 Quote
Pink_Freud Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 It's official: M$ Updates Screwed the Pooch...again:https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_update/windows-update-kb3004394-issues/ace25277-7f65-4486-bc44-c1b106907a18http://www.allwebsolutions.net/science-technology/operating-systems/botched-kb-3004394-triggers-error-messages-but-no-response-from-microsoft/ Quote
Pink_Freud Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) Just double checked my VM all updates integrated w DISM, 2 "non-integratable" updates (KB2533552 & KB971033) failed to install by setupcomplete.cmd so it appears KB3004394 prevented their installation. Edited December 10, 2014 by Pink_Freud dareckibmw 1 Quote
Thiersee Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 I think the most intelligent thing to do is to wait some days before publishing ULs : if there is such a bug with KB3004394, MS will probably remove it. I've placed it in my "quarantine" section of ULs........This is the best idea! Thiersee Quote
dareckibmw Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 Just double checked my VM all updates integrated w DISM, 2 "non-integratable" updates (KB2533552 & KB971033) failed to install by setupcomplete.cmd so it appears KB3004394 prevented their installation. This is exactly what happened to me. Quote
Thiersee Posted December 10, 2014 Posted December 10, 2014 To my post #305: 2) Since today WU is asking for KB3006625 (critical, not optional!); there are only two problems with this update: Forget this point, please! On my 2 working PCs this request does not appear, probably due to other Updates/programs installed.If I make a fresh installation with only the updates from the UL (Windows, IE11, RDP) and make then an update-search, KB3006625 appears as "important",in the same way like SP1 (a small part) if KB2533552 has not been installed. With a complete installation with all the non integratable updates, driver, programs and so on KB3006625 is NOT requested by WU. The issue with KB3004394 remains. Thiersee Quote
Pink_Freud Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 M$ has pulled KB3004394 (for Windows 7) from it's servers. Apparently the update for win 7 x64 did not install a catalog file (kinda important detail, no?) User "bird" reported this finding VBox Ticket #13677 https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/13677 From what I can tell, the KB3004394 update does not install a catalog file on 64-bit windows 7. It does on Windows 8.1 (C:\Windows\system32\CatRoot\{F750E6C3-38EE-11D1-85E5-00C04FC295EE}\Package_1_for_KB3004394~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.3.1.0.cat), so VBox works fine there. The result of the missing .cat file is that VBox (nor SysInternal's SigCheck.exe for that matter) is not able to verify the authenticity of c:\windows\system32\crypt32.dll and wintrust.dll. If we cannot find any valid signature for the files, we have to assume that they have been tampered with and are forced to abort application loading. These two dlls are important for validating other components, so there is absolutely no way we can ignore this. Until Microsoft fixes the KB3004394 update on Windows 7, the only solution is to revert/uninstall it. dareckibmw 1 Quote
mooms Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 I have uninstalled KB3004394 to be on the safe side but I didn't encountered any issues mentioned (I still use an old version of VirtualBox though) with the update installed. Quote
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