rhahgleuhargh Posted March 12, 2015 Author Posted March 12, 2015 @tous,Réupload de l'UL x86 avec la suppression de KB2732500. Merci icare pour le retour ! Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted March 12, 2015 Author Posted March 12, 2015 @Pink_Freud,Same thing for me after deep-clean, but once the 2 parts of KB3032359 and KB3021952 reinstalled by WU, a new deep-clean doesn't remove KB3023607 anymore. Quote
Pink_Freud Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) @rhahgleuharghMine continually removes KB3023607... going to try adding 3607 via setupcomplete.cmd & see what happens. Edited March 12, 2015 by Pink_Freud Quote
Pink_Freud Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) EDIT: Never mind, I was wrong. WU still asks for 2 components after setupcomplete: Edited March 12, 2015 by Pink_Freud Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted March 13, 2015 Author Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) @Pink_Freud,Argh, finally it's the same pb for me, 2 parts of the 2 IE11 KBs asked after deep-clean and reboot...No solution until next patch tuesday...@Extended,You may ask why there are more updates in your live Windows after installation than the number of integrated KBs ? it's due to the fact that Windows 7 ISO includes some updates after SP1 pack. Edited March 13, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
wela Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 HiThere is a new update. kb 3000483, it comes with kb3004375-v3 by download from update catalog und replacekb 2536276-v2. Pink_Freud 1 Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted March 13, 2015 Author Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) @wela,Thx for the info. :prop:KB3000483 was released in february update patch, and surprisingly was not proposed by WU, but KB3004375-V3 was (and is in the ULs).I checked in WU catalog, you're right, these KBs are linked together, and KB2536276 is superseeded.I'll make some tests tomorrow (uninstall KB2536276, check WU, then install KB3000483). If all is OK, I'll modify ULs. EDIT : uninstalled KB2536276 --> reasked by WU after reboot ; installed KB3000483 : no more update asked after reboot. ULs reuploaded. @tous : réupload des ULs : KB3000483 de février dernier remplace KB2536276. Pour ceux qui avaient déjà remis à jour les listes, ce n'est pas un changement majeur, cette mise à jour n'était pas proposée par WU, mais elle remplace pourtant bien la précédente ! Edited March 14, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
Pink_Freud Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 HiThere is a new update. kb 3000483, it comes with kb3004375-v3 by download from update catalog und replacekb 2536276-v2. Good catch. @wela,Thx for the info.KB3000483 was released in february update patch, and surprisingly was not proposed by WU, but KB3004375-V3 was (and is in the ULs).I checked in WU catalog, you're right, these KBs are linked together, and KB2536276 is superseeded.I'll make some tests tomorrow (uninstall KB2536276, check WU, then install KB3000483). If all is OK, I'll modify ULs. I just installed KB3000483, deepclean asks remove KB2536276: 2015-03-13 19:27:52, Info CBS Adding: Package_for_KB2536276~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.2.12015-03-13 19:28:25, Info CBS DC: Package_for_KB2536276~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.2.1: unique components: 12 Size: 1.16 MB (1,218,356 bytes)I did not remove via deepclean (due to problem above with 3023607 lol) but uninstalled it, rebooted & WU came back clean Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted March 14, 2015 Author Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) @Pink_Freud,I did a deep-clean : I confirm that KB2536276 is removed, and you know what ? your friend KB3023607 :ranting: I'm going to have a new round with parts of KB3032359 and KB3021952 at next startup... Edited March 14, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
Pink_Freud Posted March 14, 2015 Posted March 14, 2015 @Pink_Freud,I did a deep-clean : I confirm that KB2536276 is removed, and you know what ? your friend KB3023607 :ranting: I'm going to have a new round with parts of KB3032359 and KB3021952 at next startup... Lol... I think I found a solution to our KB3023607 problem... dareckibmw 1 Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted March 14, 2015 Author Posted March 14, 2015 :prop: :nunchaku: Pink_Freud 1 Quote
Thiersee Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) Hi rhahgleurargh, I spent my sunday testing and testing and testing..... I integrated only update from your UL on bot x64 and x86; results: x64, deep clean still uninstalls KB3023607; after that WU asks for KB3032359/3021952 (both 5.2 MB); after reinstalling this two updates the history of installed updates shows KB3023607 installed. x86, deep clean still uninstalls KB3023607 (as x64), but this is not enough! Deep clean uninstalls KB3004375 and KB3031432 too!Reinstalling only KB3004375 WU does not ask for KB3031432 again. I found this thread in another forum, where a user means Deep clean deletes some information that normally tells windows that a update is installed. BTW, do you still have the ULs from january and february? Can you post them? Thanks a lot. Thiersee Edited March 15, 2015 by Thiersee Quote
Thiersee Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 @Pink_Freud,I did a deep-clean : I confirm that KB2536276 is removed, and you know what ? your friend KB3023607 :ranting: I'm going to have a new round with parts of KB3032359 and KB3021952 at next startup... Lol... I think I found a solution to our KB3023607 problem... You should reserve your "solution" for Microsoft, not for your poor computer :ranting: .... Pink_Freud 1 Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted March 16, 2015 Author Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) @Thiersee,No, I have deleted them. I just keep old links in a separate file.I didn't encounter this bug with my real x86 machines (only IE updates).KB3004375 is in UL (february).Here is the link for the other : <update id="KB3031432" category="1" publishdate="2015-02-10" article="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3031432"> <title>KB3031432 - MAJ pour Windows 7 SP1</title> <description>Une vulnérabilité dans Microsoft Windows pourrait permettre une augmentation de privilèges.</description> <filename>Windows6.1-KB3031432-x86.msu</filename> <url>http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/C/5/0C540274-42D4-4868-8261-5A94D1EEDDDF/Windows6.1-KB3031432-x86.msu</url> </update> Microsoft seems to have done a great job this month; I won't do a deep-clean until next update patch...I won't be at home until the end of the week, so no ability to test anything. Edited March 16, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
Thiersee Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) @Thiersee,No, I have deleted them. I just keep old links in a separate file.I didn't encounter this bug with my real x86 machines (only IE updates).KB3004375 is in UL (february).....OK, thanks. DO anyone still have the old UL (january, february) and can post them? Thiersee Edit: I got the old UL I need on my backup-HDD . Thank you anyway. Edited March 16, 2015 by Thiersee Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted March 16, 2015 Author Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) @Thiersee,Just ran a deep-clean on my real x86 machine before I left : KB3004375 is not deleted (was installed last month), just IE 11 update. WU history doesn't show anything except the 2 reinstallations of IE 11 parts, due to the fact that I ran 2 deep-cleans this WE.This Windows 7pro x86 was installed 2 months ago, and I just removed manually KB2536276 and installed KB3000483 this WE.Good luck for your research, I'll read the forum friday ! Edited March 16, 2015 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
Thiersee Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 @Thiersee,Just ran a deep-clean on my real x86 machine before I left : KB3004375 is not deleted (was installed last month), just IE 11 update. WU history doesn't show anything except the 2 reinstallations of IE 11 parts, due to the fact that I ran 2 deep-cleans this WE.This Windows 7pro x86 was installed 2 months ago, and I just removed manually KB2536276 and installed KB3000483 this WE.Good luck for your research, I'll read the forum friday !Exactly that will I try: if the same happens with an updated old installation too!Have a nice week! Thiersee Quote
Pink_Freud Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) Self delete bad info. Edited March 20, 2015 by Pink_Freud Quote
Thiersee Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) I believe I've solved the Kb-3023607-3021952-3032359 clusterf**k and you're not gonna believe the solution (at least in my case) is as simple as 3 little letters.... U A C Confirmed in VMWare (twice) and "Live" shstem (once). When KB's 3021952, 3032359, 3023607 & their "child" components are installed with UAC disabled, cleamgr.exe (DeepClean) will remove KB3023607:2015-03-16 10:49:08, Info CBS Adding: Package_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.02015-03-16 10:49:13, Info CBS DC: Package_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.0: unique components: 58 Size: 20.54 MB (21,538,670 bytes)2015-03-16 10:49:13, Info CBS Total size of superseded packages: 20.54 MB (21,538,670 bytes)When KB's 3021952, 3032359, 3023607 & their "child" components are installed with UAC enabled, DeepClean does not remove KB3023607 Can anyone else confirm/refute/test etc this scenario? Be back this afternoon (it's 11:30 AM here now) Me so happy!I can't confirm it sorry :sad01_anim: ! UAC is enabled in my VirtualBox (Standard, cursor on the 2nd step from the top); I installed Win7 HomePremium x86 (updates + RDP ONLY, no other stuff!).I used the february-UL from rhahgleuharg, then: 1) I searched for update by WU2) I installed by hand single updates beginning with KB3000483 (not asked by WU) then the updates from the WU-list; I didn't install KB3033929 immediately at the 2nd place.3) After every update (restart only if necessary) I did a deep cleaning, a restart and a new search by WU. Everything went good.4) After installing KB3046049, deep cleaning, restart and search by WU I saw in the DeepClean.log that KB3023607 has been uninstalled together with KB3023562; WU asked for KB3032359/KB3021952 again (each 3MB)!5) I reinstalled KB3032359/KB3021952 and the updates-history told me KB3023607 has been installed.6) After installing KB3033929 (at the end, because there are some problems with this update) and deep-cleaning I got a big bad surprise: KB3023607 has been uninstalled again, but this time together with KB3004375 and KB3031432 (have a look to my previous posts)! I'll try now to reinstall windows again, then some from the WU-list (excluding KB3046049 and KB3033929), then switch UAC-cursor to the top-step (ALL permissions) and install the two updates left.I'll report if it works or not. Regards, Thiersee Edited March 16, 2015 by Thiersee Quote
bphlpt Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Since this issue has been reported by many people, both here and on other sites, I would assume that this is not anything that anyone is doing wrong, except MS. So I'd suggest only doing a deep clean before adding these troublesome updates, and not afterwards, at least this month. Hopefully, MS will straighten this mess out by next patch Tuesday, if not before. It seems that either the updates, and/or the deep cleaner app, needs an update. Just my opinion. Cheers and Regards dareckibmw 1 Quote
Thiersee Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Since this issue has been reported by many people, both here and on other sites, I would assume that this is not anything that anyone is doing wrong, except MS. So I'd suggest only doing a deep clean before adding these troublesome updates, and not afterwards, at least this month. Hopefully, MS will straighten this mess out by next patch Tuesday, if not before. It seems that either the updates, and/or the deep cleaner app, needs an update. Just my opinion. Cheers and RegardsFull ack! Some more tests I made today showed me, that both KB3046049 and KB3033929 are responsible if KB3023607 will be uninstalled by deep clean; added to this, KB3033929 causes deep cleaning uninstalling KB3004375 and KB3031432! Therefore my next try will be to integrate with the last UL from 14-03-2015 excluding KB3046049 and KB3033929, then deep clean and at the end a new search by WU. Thiersee Quote
Pink_Freud Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) @Thiersee: Than you for your efforts, I appreciate it but I'm afraid you've lost me with talk of any KB's except 3021952, 3032359 & 3023607 :dizzy: those three are the only ones I had any issue(s) with. FWIW I'm testing x64 only w/ IE11 & prereq's, RDP, WU Client, Net 3.5.1 & updates thru DISM cmd script, March ULZ, & abboddi's Net 4.5 WA, mooms' Flash SFX thru Wintoolkit & setupcomplete for KB's 971033 & 2533552. ETA: I Hide these KB's on first MU checks: Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2506928Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2545698Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2660075Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2719857Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2732059Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2761217Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2773072Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2799926Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2800095Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2843630Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2846960Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2853952Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2891804Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2893519Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2913152Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2918077Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2919469Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2928562Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2970228Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2977728Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB2985461Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB3006121Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB3006137Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB3006625Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems KB3021917Regards,Pink Edited March 17, 2015 by Pink_Freud Quote
Thiersee Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 ....but I'm afraid you've lost me with talk of any KB's except 3021952, 3032359 & 3023607 :dizzy: those three are the only ones I had any issue(s) with. FWIW I'm testing x64 only......No, I didn't lost you, sorry.I only said, that those KBs are responsible too, if KB3023607 will be uninstalled, even if UAC is enabled; have a look to points 4), 5) and 6). I did it on x86, because it's faster (smaller) to get more tests in a day .I'll do today a final test on x86, then I 'll begin with x64 (I need both). I say it again:updates asked by WU ONLY with the UL from rhahgleuharg (updates, RDP 8.1, IE11 with updates); NFW 3.5.1 is part of the OS and already in the list I only add the hotifx KB3000056 (Rollup for NFW 3.5.1).Nothing others! Regards, Thiersee Quote
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