Thiersee Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 @Thiersee Do you really think kb3022345 is necessary? :questionmark:Its a Data collecting and Tracking tool without no benefits for the user or the system. Only MS does know which Data are collected and send to Redmond.I don't know and I don't remember, if it was under "Critical" or "Optional" I'll have a look tonight in a VM not yet updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooms Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Thank you Tiersee, I made a test with 7 Pro French and April's UL updated with your informations.I've made the integration with NTLite (first time testing it).I have manually installed IE11 (NTLite crashed when I added the IE11 setup) here is my remarks about IE11:WU installed only KB3049563 and KB3021952, therefore KB3023607 and KB2976627 seems not needed anymore. I will try a new integration with WinToolkit, with IE11 and without KB3023607 and KB2976627 to see if it was because of NTlite's removals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dareckibmw Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) Hi rhahgleuhargh, KB3049563 replaces KB3038314KB3023215KB3032655KB3048070 replaces KB2832414, KB2861191KB3045171 replaces KB3034344, KB2957503, KB2835361KB3046002 replaces KB2971850KB3051768KB3055642KB3061518KB3022345 replaces KB2882822 I made already some tests, based on UL 16-04-2015 plus KB3045645/KB3020369, it means without KB2533552 (integrated/installed, no matter): 1) After update by WU on x64, KB976932 has been requested: only 9.1 MB I did exactly the same thing as you did, but in my case, after update by WU KB3013531, KB3020370, KB976932 and KB3048761 (optional) shows up.After running deepscan those were uninstalled: KB2957503, KB3023607 and KB3045999 Then I ran updates again and of course we got back KB3021953 (5.2MB) duh! Now I am going to add KB3013531, KB3020370 and I'll remove KB2957503, KB3045999 I'm using Win7 SP1 Pro x64 EDIT: Actually, first...I'm going to add KB3013531, KB3020370 & KB3048761 only and run a test. Edited May 13, 2015 by dareckibmw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 .....I've made the integration with NTLite (first time testing it)....I don't use NTLite.... I have manually installed IE11 (NTLite crashed when I added the IE11 setup) here is my remarks about IE11:WU installed only KB3049563 and KB3021952, therefore KB3023607 and KB2976627 seems not needed anymore. I will try a new integration with WinToolkit, with IE11 and without KB3023607 and KB2976627 to see if it was because of NTlite's removals.I read somwhere that KB2976627 is needed only on non-english systems. If you install with the UL and make a Deep Cleaning KB3023607 will be uninstalled, but after that WU requests KB3021952 (MS-logic....);if you install without KB3023607 WU asks for KB3021952 too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) I did exactly the same thing as you did, but in my case, after update by WU KB3013531, KB3020370, KB976932 and KB3048761 (optional) shows up.After running deepscan those were uninstalled: KB2957503, KB3023607 and KB3045999 Then I ran updates again and of course we got back KB3021953 (5.2MB) duh! Now I am going to add KB3013531, KB3020370 and I'll remove KB2957503, KB3045999 I'm using Win7 SP1 Pro x64 EDIT: Actually, first...I'm going to add KB3013531, KB3020370 & KB3048761 only and run a test. I have hidden all the updates related to future Windows 10... Deep Cleaning uninstalls KB3023607 but WU asks then for KB3021952 KB976932: see post #560 Edited May 13, 2015 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dareckibmw Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I did exactly the same thing as you did, but in my case, after update by WU KB3013531, KB3020370, KB976932 and KB3048761 (optional) shows up.After running deepscan those were uninstalled: KB2957503, KB3023607 and KB3045999 Then I ran updates again and of course we got back KB3021953 (5.2MB) duh! Now I am going to add KB3013531, KB3020370 and I'll remove KB2957503, KB3045999 I'm using Win7 SP1 Pro x64 EDIT: Actually, first...I'm going to add KB3013531, KB3020370 & KB3048761 only and run a test. I have hidden all the updates related to future Windows 10... Deep Cleaning uninstalls KB3023607 but WU asks then for KB3021952 KB976932: see post #560 Ah I see, thanks!.....more tests to come, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorro Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Installation d'une version Ultimate x64 les KB 2835361, 2861191, 2957503, 2971850, 3034344 3038314 ont été supprimés j'ai gardé les KB 3023607, 2533552, 3045599 cleanmgr n'a rien supprimé Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooms Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I read somwhere that KB2976627 is needed only on non-english systems. If you install with the UL and make a Deep Cleaning KB3023607 will be uninstalled, but after that WU requests KB3021952 (MS-logic....);if you install without KB3023607 WU asks for KB3021952 too.Thanks for the response.I will try without KB2976627 and see if it is requested... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooms Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Je confirme que KB2976627 n'est plus demandée sur Windows 7 Pro Fr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wela Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 After update by WU on x64, KB976932 has been requested: only 9.1 MB ----> KB2533552: installing only this one the request disappears! It should mean KB2533552 is still needed or WU is buggy.Me too..... :aggressive:There are also reports about problems with kb3061518 (broken https request/connections, problem with IE). "good" job, MS :no: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) Hi everybody! Here my tests-results. First of all, for both x86 & x64: I confirm my post #560 and that KB2533552 is still requested and KB3046269 has to be installed (Silent-Installers SFX). One difference between x86 & x64:KB3004375 has been uninstalled on x86, but on x64 is still requested. One change for RDP 8.1:if hotfix KB3042839 is integrated, then KB2994023 (in the UL) is uninstalled by Deep Cleaning;for this hotfix I do not have a direct link to .msu, only to .exe (or download with WHD). Regards, Thiersee P.S.: I did NOT integrate the three KBs for Win 10, I hide them after installation. Edited May 14, 2015 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) Hi everybody! My final tests in this week-end, both for VM and real HW; all the new updates (my post #560) inserted, all the replaced updates removed: x86 HomePremium): after Deep Cleaning (KB3023607 uninstalled) NO request for KB3021952 by WU x64 HomePremium & x64 Professional: after Deep Cleaning (KB3023607 uninstalled) NO request for KB3021952 by WU KB3004375 still necessary on x64, no matter which version or language, otherwise WU asks for it and KB3031432 too; a integration try without this one confirmed it.KB3046269 must be installed under "Silent Installers", not integrated!KB2976627 & 3023607 not needed anymore (Hi Mooms ). @ rhahgleuhargh:if you need it, I can help modifying the ULs . Regards, Thiersee Edited May 17, 2015 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himan Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 About: KB2533552I made several tests on x86 and x64 and my best solution was to integrate it as the LAST Update in RunOnce.After deep clean / ccleaner-clean, some reboots, etc. the SP1 parts was never requested again by WUMy best solution for the moment is to hide this updates:KB2952664, KB3021917, KB3035583 and KB3022345 completly.This updates are only Win10/M$-Spyware related and brings me more problems and slows down my system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 About: KB2533552I made several tests on x86 and x64 and my best solution was to integrate it as the LAST Update in RunOnce.After deep clean / ccleaner-clean, some reboots, etc. the SP1 parts was never requested again by WU....I've already said it... My best solution for the moment is to hide this updates:KB2952664, KB3021917, KB3035583 and KB3022345 completly.This updates are only Win10/M$-Spyware related and brings me more problems and slows down my systemYou forgot KB2990214. it's W10-related too; anyway they are already in the UL as optional. Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 Hello,ça y est j'ai enfin Internet... Du boulot m'attend, je suis en train de mettre à jour mes machines. Merci pour les retours, je vais faire en sorte de mettre à jour les ULs d'ici 48 h.I'm back on the Web !thanks guys for all your infos, I'm currently updating my computers, hope that ULs will be updated until 48 h. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 ....hope that ULs will be updated until 48 h.Welcome back! If you want, I've already updated them (but not in french ) and tested... Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 @Thiersee,Oh yes it could be very helpfull to me if you have the links, I'll put the correct description in french !Thx in advance ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) 12.05.2015:Windows 7:http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/8/0/E80AA0D5-6038-43D6-B185-F280E36296DF/IE11-Windows6.1-KB3049563-x64.msuhttp://download.microsoft.com/download/5/F/E/5FE11464-4592-40BC-BE42-8830FDBD8A7B/IE11-Windows6.1-KB3049563-x86.msuhttp://download.microsoft.com/download/7/7/F/77F162BC-9A0D-4716-915C-80FDE79EA3AA/Windows6.1-KB3023215-x64.msuhttp://download.microsoft.com/download/7/7/F/77F162BC-9A0D-4716-915C-80FDE79EA3AA/Windows6.1-KB3023215-x86.msuhttp://download.microsoft.com/download/0/7/0/07075A5B-7921-4E01-B71E-003EBB8C3893/Windows6.1-KB3032655-x64.msuhttp://download.microsoft.com/download/0/7/0/07075A5B-7921-4E01-B71E-003EBB8C3893/Windows6.1-KB3032655-x86.msuhttp://download.microsoft.com/download/B/8/D/B8D43117-586A-4866-A512-8F51A53DEB37/Windows6.1-KB3048070-x64.msuhttp://download.microsoft.com/download/B/8/D/B8D43117-586A-4866-A512-8F51A53DEB37/Windows6.1-KB3048070-x86.msuhttp://download.microsoft.com/download/8/0/B/80B3F4A4-E80F-4F7D-92A7-C2B7C7230F54/Windows6.1-KB3045171-x64.msuhttp://download.microsoft.com/download/5/5/9/559742C6-8DE3-497D-8BD5-BC623C682FA1/Windows6.1-KB3045171-x86.msuhttp://download.microsoft.com/download/2/A/1/2A1E3B5C-83CC-4C4C-BF7D-C91FB26ABE35/Windows6.1-KB3046002-x64.msuhttp://download.microsoft.com/download/8/E/5/8E5761FB-CCE8-4ACC-9E46-B0950824BFB6/Windows6.1-KB3046002-x86.msuhttp://download.microsoft.com/download/A/B/4/AB4A8C1C-15BD-4CC8-AA1E-F911FB26D83A/Windows6.1-KB3051768-x64.msuhttp://download.microsoft.com/download/B/F/2/BF289BB2-EAC0-4932-B63A-6C859F7188F5/Windows6.1-KB3051768-x86.msuhttp://download.microsoft.com/download/4/D/A/4DAA998D-1109-4A8B-9518-ED69C65120AE/Windows6.1-KB3055642-x64.msuhttp://download.microsoft.com/download/8/E/1/8E10988B-4D5B-48A8-97F5-1374A1BDBD01/Windows6.1-KB3055642-x86.msuhttp://download.microsoft.com/download/3/0/D/30DA5A7C-7C4C-4129-8AF3-4CB86CCB0799/Windows6.1-KB3061518-x64.msuhttp://download.microsoft.com/download/F/E/1/FE1EC10F-D25F-443C-AAF9-FD7052BC9D4D/Windows6.1-KB3061518-x86.msuhttp://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/updt/2015/05/windows6.1-kb3022345-x64_a7284375095c9ea288c7aa5d4e5629f7b4ed9ad8.msuhttp://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/updt/2015/05/windows6.1-kb3022345-x86_c074cd0d81482258df749c0cb83fafdec75e3076.msu The following links on thehotfixshare.net are not recognised by WUD http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?autocom=downloads&req=download&code=confirm_download&id=20672KB3042839, 10.04.2015http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?autocom=downloads&req=download&code=confirm_download&id=20673KB3042839, 10.04.2015Mstscax.dll file leaks handles on a Remote Desktop Protocol 8.1 client in Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?autocom=downloads&req=download&code=confirm_download&id=19884KB3000056, 05.10.2014http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?autocom=downloads&req=download&code=confirm_download&id=19885KB3000056, 05.10.2014Hotfix rollup 3000056 for the .NET Framework 3.5.1 on Windows 7 SP1 or Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 I send you the ULs in a PM. Thiersee Edit: I did edit the spoiler! Edited May 19, 2015 by Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 Hello,Changelog des ULs (fini en x86, reste à valider x64) :Mises à jour devenues obligatoires du 27avril (elles étaient optionnelles avant) :KB3013531KB3020369KB3045645KB3020370Pour mai :IE 11 : KB3049563 remplace KB3038314. Suppression de KB2976627 et KB3023607 (enfin !).Updates :KB3045171 remplace KB3034344, KB2957503, et KB2835361KB3046002 remplace KB2971850KB3051768KB3055642KB3061518KB3022345 remplace KB2882822.Net FW 3.5.1 : KB3048070 remplace KB2832414, et KB2861191 ; KB3023215 et KB3032655Additional Updates : KB3035583 a été mise à jourEn x86 : déplacement de KB3004375 vers la catégorie 2 elle est toujours demandée sur les éditions pro et ultimate. A vérifier pour x64.En x86 et x64 : KB3046269 ne pouvant s'installer correctement qu'en RunOnce, en attendant une mise à jour de Wintoolkit, elle est renommée zWindows.....msu, et est à ajouter manuellement dans la section Silent installer.Je poste la version x86 de l'UL, demain la version x64. dareckibmw and Pink_Freud 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalimergo Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) Merci rhahgleuhargh mais pour moi il manque 3 mises à jours en x86 Windows6.1-KB3054476-x86.msuWindows6.1-KB3061518-x86.msu (je pense qu'elle doit être en runonce)Windows6.1-KB2952664-v9-x86.msu (je pense qu'elle doit etre en runonce aussi) Cela ferait donc 4 mises à jours à faire aprèsecho KBstart /wait %systemroot%\Setup\Scripts\Windows6.1-KB2533552-x86.msu /quiet /norestartecho.echo KBstart /wait %systemroot%\Setup\Scripts\Windows6.1-KB3046269-x86.msu /quiet /norestartecho.echo KBstart /wait %systemroot%\Setup\Scripts\Windows6.1-KB3061518-x86.msu /quiet /norestartecho.echo KBstart /wait %systemroot%\Setup\Scripts\Windows6.1-KB2952664-v9-x86.msu /quiet /norestartecho. Edited May 21, 2015 by kalimergo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiersee Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 KB3061518 is already in the list and will be normally integratedKB2533552 & KB3046269 are not integrable offline and must be installed (no matter with silent-installer or script)KB2952664 is under "Optional", everybody can decide to integrate it or not.KB3054476 has been released on 20/5/15 after the test of the UL... Thiersee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalimergo Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) merci mais bizarrement Windows6.1-KB2882822-x86.msu est redemandé chez moi.... J'ai l'impression que certaines mise à jour ont été mal installée/désinstallée dans mon wim. Total size of superseded packages: 21.20 MB (22,235,860 bytes)2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info CBS Microsoft-Windows-IE-Troubleshooters-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.7601.17514 superseded - uninstalled2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info CBS Microsoft-Windows-InternetExplorer-Optional-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~8.0.7601.17514 superseded - uninstalled2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info CBS Package_30_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info CBS Package_30_for_KB3046049~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info CBS Package_34_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info CBS Package_34_for_KB3046049~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info CBS Package_41_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info CBS Package_41_for_KB3046049~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info CBS Package_58_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info CBS Package_58_for_KB3046049~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info CBS Package_for_KB3023607~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled2015-05-21 11:28:12, Info CBS Package_for_KB3046049~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~6.1.1.0 superseded - uninstalled Edited May 21, 2015 by kalimergo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 @kalimergo,Chez moi, KB3054476 est proposée en mise à jour facultative, ainsi que KB3048761. Je ne l'ai donc pas mise dans la liste.Je confirme que KB3061518 et KB2952664 v9 sont dans la liste (KB2952664 est dans les mises à jour additionnelles, relatives à la migration vers Windows 10). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalimergo Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) merci pour le boulot que vous faites surtout que ça devient un vrai casse-tête. Ha si au moins on avait la formule pour créer un vrai service pack ! Edited May 21, 2015 by kalimergo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhahgleuhargh Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Hello,Upload de l'UL en x64.Je n'ai pas vérifié si KB3004375 était encore demandée sur les éditions Home, merci de me le signaler, auquel cas je la placerai dans la catégorie 2 comme en x86. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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