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I'm testing October list with win7 professional x64 on a virtual machine.

I integrated all the common updates + pro/ult/ent only updates + rdp 8.1 updates + ie11 and its update

Win Toolkit 1.5.3.21 automatically moved some updates into Silent installer + SFX section.

I manually added the only one update with the "z" prefix, plus .net framework 4.6 by ricktendo, plus MRT by icare, and the W10-updtaes hiding script from the first post in the last position.

Integration and installation went ok, the W10 script has successfully hidden 13 updates, BUT...

WU is asking for 4 updates, 2 important and 2 optional:

3078667

976932 (a 9.1 MB chunk of SP1 - why?)

3080079

3095649

How is that? I've been using these lists along with Win Toolkit for years, and I've always managed to get 0 updates asked by WU.

I've also repeated the WHOLE process one more time to make sure I did not make any mistake. Same result.

Posted (edited)

@Trash471,

The first KB is in UL in additional updates category. I'll Move it in the correct section. If a part of SP1 is asked There was a pb with KB2533552 during Windows installation.

kb3080079 is in UL in additional updates category. For the last one it was published after the UL I prefer To Wait for next Update patch To include it.

I allways include additional updates for my integrations thats why I missed it for kb3078667.

Edited by rhahgleuhargh
Posted

First of all, thanks for your answer, and thanks for the effort you put in this work. I really appreciate that.

The first KB is in UL in additional updates category.

kb3080079 is in UL in additional updates category.

I didn't download any file from the "Additional Updates" category, because I thought they were related to components (IIS and Telnet, for example) which are disabled by default in a clean, untouched install.

I believe KB3078667 and KB3080079 should both be moved to the "Updates" category, since they're asked by WU in a default install, regardless of the user-activated components.

For the last one it was published after the UL I prefer To Wait for next Update patch To include it.

Understood.

If a part of SP1 is asked There was a pb with KB2533552 during Windows installation.

I am 100% sure that KB2533552 has been integrated in the image. I really don't know what could have gone wrong.

I use to make tests on the same virtual machine, using the same image, with your lists from the last months, and this wasn't happening. =/

Posted

Install KB2533552 at first boot (runonce) rather than integrating it.

Is this a known issue?

Because I have done many integrations before, and I never had this problem.

Anyway, reading WinToolkit logs, i found this:

 

 

Name: KB2533552Path: C:\win7\updates\Windows6.1-KB2533552-x64.msuResult:Microsoft Windows [Versione 6.1.7601]Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Tutti i diritti riservati.C:\win7\toolkit>chcp 65001C:\win7\toolkit>Set SEE_MASK_NOZONECHECKS=1C:\win7\toolkit>"C:\Windows\System32\Dism.exe" /Image:"C:\WinToolkit_Mount_AF8AF0EE2C05CDCB6B33AC75A00D4191" /Add-Package /PackagePath:"C:\win7\updates\Windows6.1-KB2533552-x64.msu" /ScratchDir:"C:\Windows\WinToolkit_Temp\ScratchDir_3EBC1B59195AFC2EA391D3558A8D9113" /EnglishDeployment Image Servicing and Management toolVersion: 6.1.7600.16385Image Version: 6.1.7600.16385Processing 1 of 1 - C:\win7\updates\Windows6.1-KB2533552-x64.msu: An error occurred applying the Unattend.xml file from the .msu package.For more information, review the log file.Error: 0x800f082eError: 0x800f082eDISM failed. No operation was performed.For more information, review the log file.The DISM log file can be found at C:\Windows\Logs\DISM\dism.logC:\win7\toolkit>exit
Posted

Ok, Round #2

Windows 7 Professional SP1 x64

First of all, I unchecked the "Move known Problem Updates to Silent Installers" option, to prevent Win Toolkit from doing strange tricks (it was moving updates KB3035126 and KB3035132 to the "RunOnce" section; as far as I know, those can be integrated offline without any issue).

In the "Updates" section, I placed all the files from these categories:

Updates (except for 5 updates which I manually had to put in the "RunOnce" section, read below) [175]

Updates (Professional, Ultimate, and Enterprise Editions ONLY) [3]

Remote Desktop Protocol 8.1 (optional) [9]

Additional Updates (optional) [6]

IE11 setup + KB3093983 [2]

TOTAL: 195 files

In the "RunOnce" section, I manually placed those five updates mentioned before, plus .net framework 4.6 and MRT dummy file.

In the last position, the script to hide W10-related updates.

Windows6.1-KB2533552-x64.msu

Windows6.1-KB2603229-x64.msu

Windows6.1-KB3020369-x64.msu

Windows6.1-KB3042058-x64.msu

Windows6.1-KB3046269-x64.msu

dotNetFx46_It.exe

ic-MRT-leurre-SFX-Win-32-64-2015-10.exe

W10.exe

TOTAL: 8 files

Integration went smooth. From the logs, I cant'see no DISM errors.

Installation was ok, too. Only, the RunOnce installer took a very long time, but it's a virtual machine, who knows.

RESULTS: Success! WU asks ZERO updates (except for KB3095649, of course, which was released after this list).

My opinion: currently, only KB3042058 filename is prefixed with a "z". To avoid ambiguity, and to improve the lists' usability, all the "online-only" updates should be prefixed with a "z".

For October 2015 lists, those should be KB2533552, KB2603229, KB3020369, KB3042058, KB3046269.

Just wanted to share my feedback.

Posted (edited)

@Trash491,

It's recommended to check all updates proposed by Wintoolkit to be moved in Silent installers + SFX section (you did it manually) : we report to LegolasH2O all updates that can't be integrated offline (like KB2533552), and the program handle these KBs, so they will be directly installed in RunOnce. Some updates seem to be integrated offline, but in fact they don't (partial installation or wrong installation), and some of them need to be installed after KB2533552 (it's the case with KB3020369 if I remember good). So if they are selected by Wintoolkit, this is for a good reason.

Updates marked with a "z" are those that Wintoolkit can't handle at this moment, I regularly remove the "z" when it has been updated by LegolasH2O.

I don't know what is the result with other integration programs like NT Lite, I didn't test it.

Purpose of these ULs was to help integration with Wintoolkit, so no need to create a new category with RunOnce updates (there are too much categories, and if you open UL with a text editor, all RunOnce updates are writen in the top of the list).

Edited by rhahgleuhargh
Posted

What about KB3035126 and KB3035132, then?

Win Toolkit automatically places them in the RunOnce section, but they aren't on the top of the list with the others.

Are they offline-integrable?

Posted (edited)

@Trash491,

Only updates marked as RunOnce in top of the list have to be installed in RunOnce.

KB3035126 and KB3035132 are integrable offline, but it depends which files you did download (UL ones work). It should have been fixed (I don't look at it when I do my integrations, but I'll check it next time), if they appear you can uncheck them and backup your settings for the next time :

http://www.wincert.net/forum/topic/13045-solved-v15312-cant-integrate-kb2603229-kb3035126-kb3035132/

For other KBs, have a look here :

http://www.wincert.net/forum/topic/13089-solved-kb3046269-to-be-moved-under-silent-installers/

http://www.wincert.net/forum/topic/13131-updates-to-transfert-to-silent-install-sfx-section/#entry115831

Edited by rhahgleuhargh
Posted

Thanks for the clarification. Very interesting threads indeed. From what I've read, I think it's better to place the updates in the RunOnce section manually.

Posted

@Trash491,

Since you know what you have to do with all these updates, you can do what you want ! ^_^

I like the function of Wintoolkit since all is done automatically. I'll check for KB3035126 and KB3035132 (I don't think they were placed in RunOnce section in my case) and report.

I've corrected ULs for next Update Patch. For my next round of test I won't integrate additional updates to check if they became important.

Posted

@Trash491,

I confirm that KB3035126 and KB3035132 are not selected by Wintoolkit 1.5.4.3 to be moved in Silent install + SFX section.

Are you using the last version and/or did you have updated the Update-cache (box under "all-in-one integrator" window) ?

Posted

I confirm that KB3035126 and KB3035132 are not selected by Wintoolkit 1.5.4.3 to be moved in Silent install + SFX section.

Are you using the last version and/or did you have updated the Update-cache (box under "all-in-one integrator" window) ?

Yes, I'm using latest version. Maybe I forgot to update that cache, I can't rember that.

Posted (edited)

Hi,

 

KB3102810 (new WU-Client) has been requested yesterday as optional by WU.

WHD say it's W10-related (listed under category W10).

 

Thiersee

Edited by Thiersee
Posted (edited)

Salut !

 

Sur un site j'ai trouvé une liste de 24 mises à jour liées "plus ou moins" à Windows 10 pour un Windows 7 sp1 alors que ta liste apparemment n'en contient que 11 :

 

KB3083711


KB3083710
KB3083325
KB3083324
KB3080149
KB3075853
KB3075851
KB3075249
KB3072318
KB3068708
KB3065988
KB3065987
KB3050267
KB3050265
KB3044374
KB3035583
KB3022345
KB3021917
KB3014460
KB3012973
KB2990214
KB2977759
KB2976978
KB2952664

 

Peut-être ne sont-elles pas toutes dans ta liste parce certaines sont facultatives, mais je tenais à t'en informer.

D'ailleurs, optionnelles ou non, je les mettrais volontiers dans la liste, pour ne pas les installer par mégarde ultérieurement, mais je ne maitrise pas du tout le vbs. Que faudrait-il changer pour que ça fonctionne ?

 

Dim hideupdates(11)    'TO ADD 1 EDIT THE (11) AND ADD another hideupdates(#)



hideupdates(0) = "KB2952664"
hideupdates(1) = "KB2990214"
hideupdates(2) = "KB3021917"
hideupdates(3) = "KB3035583"
hideupdates(4) = "KB3050265"
hideupdates(5) = "KB3068708"
hideupdates(6) = "KB3075851"
hideupdates(7) = "KB3065987"
hideupdates(8) = "KB3075249"
hideupdates(9) = "KB3080149"
hideupdates(10) = "KB3083324"
hideupdates(11) = "KB3083710"

 

Merci. Et autrement, tout semble fonctionner d'après mes premiers tests sur une machine virtuelle :-)

Edited by zimxavier
Posted (edited)

@zimxavier,

"Ma" liste ne contient que les mises à jour spontanément proposées par WU, d'autres mises à jour sont effectivement susceptibles d'être reliées à la nouvelle vague de télémétrie instaurée par M$, mais comme elles ne sont pas demandées, je ne les inclue pas. La liste minimale pour les mises à jour de télémétrie et relatives à W10 à jour est détaillée ici.

J'attends en règle générale le Patch Tuesday officiel pour remettre les listes à jour, car la plupart des mises à jour optionnelles parues entre temps deviennent prioritaires.

Pour la liste du fichier .vbs : certaines mises à jour ont été écrasées, mais du moment où tu bloques des mises à jour récentes, elles sont du coup demandées par WU, d'où les 11 actuellement (et ça passera sûrement à 13 la semaine prochaine avec les 2 KB parues ces deux dernières semaines). Tu peux l'éditer facilement, en ajoutant les mises à jour supplémentaires au niveau de la liste, et en augmentant le nombre (x) à côté de Dim hideupdates(x) du nombre de mises à jour ajoutées.

Edited by rhahgleuhargh
Posted

Après quelques lancements dans une machine virtuelle d'un windows 7 sp1 auquel je n'ai ajouté que les mises à jour proposées ici au 17 octobre 2015, j'ai eu la désagréable surprise d'avoir un écran qui semble me pousser à m'intéresser à windows 10 sans le dire :

 

151107091436338231.jpg

 

 

Quoiqu'il en soit je n'avais jamais eu cet écran auparavant. Je pense qu'il vient d'un des correctifs. Si quelqu'un a des informations je suis preneur.

Posted

Non c'est une fonctionnalité qui a toujours existé dans W7, c'est la "mise à niveau express" pour passer à une édition supérieure, le raccourci se trouve dans le menu démarrer, il s'est lancé pour une raison ou une autre (clic accidentel?).

Posted

Salut mooms... ça fait -très- longtemps !

 

hm... un clic accidentel, non, j'étais en train de faire une recherche dans le registre avec Registry Workshop et subitement la fenêtre est apparue...

Par contre, il est possible que ce soit parce que j'avais installé windows 7 depuis plusieurs jours sur la machine virtuelle sans l'avoir activé. Autrement je ne vois pas d'explication. Je vais voir si je peux supprimer ce composant (je n'utilise plus wintoolkit mais NTLite) puisqu'il me parait inutile dans toutes mes installations.

 

Bon en tout cas si c'est normal ça me rassure, merci^^. J'ai constaté sur mon pc fixe, pourtant plus mis à jour depuis quelques mois, qu'un mouchard était installé (un certain "Diagnostics Tracking Service") et depuis je fouille le système pour virer ces trucs.

Posted

Tiens, après avoir redémarré Windows, mon pare-feu m'alerte que l’application diagtrackrunner.exe cherche à établir une connexion...alors que j'ai justement désactivé le service !

 

 

J'ai trouvé ça en faisant des recherches sur le processus:

 

 

Voici la procédure pour supprimer ou désactiver les mouchards de Windows 7

1-ouvrez le planificateur de taches

2- Dans le volet de gauche, sélectionnez le répertoire : Microsoft/Windows/Customer

Experience cliquer sur : Customer Improvement Program pour l'ouvrir

désactiver
      Consolidator
      KernelCeipTask

      Uploader
      USBCeip

Vous pouvez voir la description de ces quatres services dans le volet du centre

inférieur des boîtes de dialogues.
 
3- Maintenant rendez-vous dans Application Experience

désactiver

         AitAgent
         microsoft compatibility

         ProgramDataUpdater

4- Ouvrez maintenant le répertoire DiskDiagnostic

désactiver
Microsoft-Windows-DiskDiagnosticDataCollector.

5- Pour ceux qui ont un ordinateur portable (Laptop) il faudra aller dans le dernierrépertoire au bas qui est nommé WPD

désactiver SqmUpload_S-1-5-21-3244633361-4016055161-2943779436-1000
si la tache est présente !

 annuler ces services ne rendra pas votre système vulnérable

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