Thiersee Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 45 minutes ago, rhahgleuhargh said: Maybe it could be due to the presence of KB2813347, I don't remember why I didn't include it in my test. I don't know how the sequence of integration is changing anything, since you install first the prerequisites. So if you succeeded with this one, it's OK for me ! I'll move KB2923545 in the Classic integration category like the other prerequisite. ULs reuploaded and post edited. The only big difference I can see is the integration sequence: I integrate RDP 8.1 before rollup KB3125574; following the WHD-Info for RDP should be that the right sequence: Spoiler # Remote Desktop Protocol 8.0 / 8.1 #The updates must be installed in the following order: - If you choose to use rollup KB3125574 (Recommended): 1. KB2574819-v2 2. KB2592687 3. KB2830477 4. KB3125574-v4 if you already installed KB3125574 before RDP, re-install it afterwards - To get both packages without rollup KB3125574: 1. KB2574819-v2 2. KB2592687 3. KB2830477 4. KB2923545 5. KB2985461 6. KB3020388 7. KB3024260 8. KB3075226 9. KB3126446 - To get only RDP 8.0 (Client and Server): 1. KB2574819-v2 2. KB2592687 3. KB2984976 4. KB3020387 6. KB3075222 7. KB3126446 - To get only RDP 8.1 (Client): 1. KB2574819-v2 2. KB2830477 3. KB2923545 4. KB2985461 5. KB3020388 6. KB3024260 7. KB3075226 - It's recommended to install KB2574819 in Normal GDR-mode, not forced LDR-mode. If I import all the file from the UL KB2574819 is as prerequisite, but all other RDP-patches are at the end, after the rollup. Anyway I hope I can manage still today to do another integration and report about it. Thiersee Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted June 16, 2016 Author Posted June 16, 2016 I tried to uninstall KB2923545 in the VM, result : it's asked bu WU ! Yes, RDP Updates should be integrated first. IT's time to do a Hara Kiri ! Quote
Thiersee Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) Info in between: in the ISO for the installation running as I wrote you, I had integrated the 5 more RDP-Patches (with DISM); after a Deep Cleaning exactly those patches have been uninstalled! The 3 RDPs had been integrated before rollup. I begin now building a new ISO from scratch with your original UL, but moving all RDPs before rollup and I'll report, may be in the late night . Edit: here am I again ! 1) RDPs, only KB2574819, KB2592687, KB2830477, integrated before rollup, no other RDP requests. 2) KB2813347 seems to be necessary, it has been requested (installed at the end, after request by WU). 3) Deep Cleaning uninstalled only KB2534111. A good solution: I would renumber the RDPs to 2- (the four for convenience rollup) and to 4- (the rest); not the categories. I would move KB3102429 to "Common" and renumber it to 2-; it will be requested as optional. Or you can hide it... Have a good night, Thiersee Edited June 17, 2016 by Thiersee Quote
Thiersee Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) I forgot in my last post: KB971033 (WTA) has not been superseded by rollup and should be in the "Common"-category, not in the "Classic". KB2813347 should be renumbered to 1-RDPxxxx, on my test has been requested. Edit: @rhahgleuhargh I think it's really making a big confusion for some user if you mix-up category-numbers in a group (e.g. RDP 8.1); the number-prefix for the patches is good, but some user can confuse it with the category-number when you say Quote You can now integrate updates via Convenience Rollup Pack or via classic integration method. All related Convenience Rollup updates are now numeroted, just select them if you prefer to choose this integration method (more faster) : 1- for prerequisites and RDP updates (Thiersee asked Legolash2o to move KB3020609 and KB2670838 in prerequiste category), 2- for updates before Rollup, 3- Rollup itself, 4- Post rollup updates. Those who prefer to stay with a classic integration should integrate common updates (1-, 2-, 4-, 5-), and all other Windows6.1xxx.msu updates I allowed myself to try a change on your UL, please have a look at it; to get a "free" category, without changing a lot, I changed the IE-Category to 9: Spoiler ............ <category id="9">IE 11 Updates</category> <category id="10">Remote Desktop Protocol 8.1 (optional, Common)</category> <category id="11">Remote Desktop Protocol 8.1 (optional, only Classic)</category> ............ <!-- Catégorie IE 11 Updates --> <update id="IE11-KB3160005" category="9" publishdate="2016-06-14" article="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3160005"> <title>KB3160005 - MAJ de sécurité cumulative pour Internet Explorer 11 pour Windows 7 SP1 x86</title> <description>Mise à jour de sécurité cumulative pour IE 11.</description> <filename>IE11-Windows6.1-KB3160005-x86.msu</filename> <url>http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2016/05/ie11-windows6.1-kb3160005-x86_37cbe187f0887e2d6eab9d84b576931d2b38f1c3.msu</url> </update> <!-- Catégorie RDP 8.1 --> <!-- Common --> <update id="KB2813347" category="10" publishdate="2013-04-09" article="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2813347"> <title>KB2813347 - MAJ pour Windows 7 SP1 x86</title> <description>Un problème de sécurité a été identifié dans un programme Microsoft qui pourrait affecter la stabilité de votre système.</description> <filename>2-RDP-Windows6.1-KB2813347-x86.msu</filename> <url>http://download.microsoft.com/download/3/3/6/33643971-3DAB-4962-BCF4-FF142018E33C/Windows6.1-KB2813347-x86.msu</url> </update> <update id="KB2592687" category="10" publishdate="2013-09-10" article="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2592687"> <title>KB2592687 - MAJ pour Windows 7 SP1 x86</title> <description>La mise à jour du protocole RDP (Remote Desktop) 8.0 vous permet d'utiliser les nouvelles fonctionnalités des Services Bureau à distance qui ont été introduites dans Windows 8 et Windows Server 2012.</description> <filename>2-RDP-Windows6.1-KB2592687-x86.msu</filename> <url>http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/E/2/1E2A08C9-B87B-4808-94A6-30BC9D65775E/Windows6.1-KB2592687-x86.msu</url> </update> <update id="KB2574819" category="10" publishdate="2013-09-10" article="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2574819"> <title>KB2574819 - MAJ pour Windows 7 SP1 x86</title> <description>Prérequis. Ajoute la prise en charge de DTLS dans Windows 7 SP1. </description> <filename>1-RDP-Windows6.1-KB2574819-v2-x86.msu</filename> <url>http://download.microsoft.com/download/A/D/4/AD4875AF-38B3-42C7-9915-16C7505C15DE/Windows6.1-KB2574819-v2-x86.msu</url> </update> <update id="KB2830477" category="10" publishdate="2014-02-12" article="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2830477"> <title>KB2830477 - MAJ pour Windows 7 SP1 x86</title> <description>MAJ pour RemoteApp et Desktop Connections.</description> <filename>2-RDP-Windows6.1-KB2830477-x86.msu</filename> <url>http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/B/2/2B280EDD-FDA9-4044-9FB4-A3BE7CBF9AB1/Windows6.1-KB2830477-x86.msu</url> </update> <!-- Classic ONLY --> <update id="KB2857650" category="11" publishdate="2014-01-27" article="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2857650"> <title>KB2857650 - MAJ pour Windows 7 SP1 x86</title> <description>Prérequis. MAJ pour RemoteApp et Desktop Connections.</description> <filename>RDP-Windows6.1-KB2857650-x86.msu</filename> <url>http://download.microsoft.com/download/2/B/2/2B280EDD-FDA9-4044-9FB4-A3BE7CBF9AB1/Windows6.1-KB2857650-x86.msu</url> </update> <update id="KB2923545" category="11" publishdate="2014-02-24" article="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2923545"> <title>KB2923545 - MAJ pour Windows 7 SP1 x86</title> <description>MAJ pour RDP 8.1.</description> <filename>RDP-Windows6.1-KB2923545-x86.msu</filename> <url>http://download.microsoft.com/download/C/6/2/C62C5E5F-90B4-4F03-AB7B-5EA94F17EA6D/Windows6.1-KB2923545-x86.msu</url> </update> <!-- KB3020388 remplace/supersedes KB3019978 --> <update id="KB3020388" category="11" publishdate="2015-01-13" article="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3020388"> <title>KB3020388 - MAJ pour Windows 7 SP1 x86</title> <description>Vulnérabilité dans le composant WebProxy TS si RDP 8.1 est installé.</description> <filename>RDP-Windows6.1-KB3020388-x86.msu</filename> <url>http://download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/secu/2014/12/windows6.1-kb3020388-x86_837e0478bce5d45a7e483ae2ab65056c74a7940d.msu</url> </update> <update id="KB3075226" category="11" publishdate="2015-08-11" article="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3075226"> <title>KB3075226 - MAJ pour Windows 7 SP1 x86</title> <description>MAJ pour RDP 8.1.</description> <filename>RDP-Windows6.1-KB3075226-x86.msu</filename> <url>http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/C/3/5C35066C-65D5-4385-B032-966FD645D619/Windows6.1-KB3075226-x86.msu</url> </update> <update id="KB3126446" category="11" publishdate="2016-02-09" article="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3126446"> <title>KB3126446 - MAJ pour Windows 7 SP1 x86</title> <description>MAJ pour RDP 8.1.</description> <filename>RDP-Windows6.1-KB3126446-x86.msu</filename> <url>https://download.microsoft.com/download/1/8/D/18D49689-18EA-41D2-90C4-5638F6A94DA8/Windows6.1-KB3126446-x86.msu</url> </update> It works. Thiersee Edited June 17, 2016 by Thiersee Quote
X-Force Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) I make 3 test last 24 hours. Result = Hara Kiri WU Ask old Dotnet 3.5.1 Update KB2446710 - KB2478662. Install 2 updates WU says up to date. After deepclean that update uninstalled and WU show again. That update was superseded a long time ago. KB2972100 or KB2604115 replace this old update. Try to install show this message. "The update is not applicable to your computer" Edited June 17, 2016 by X-Force Quote
Thiersee Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, X-Force said: ..... WU Ask old Dotnet 3.5.1 Update KB2446710 - KB2478662. Install 2 updates WU says up to date. After deepclean that update uninstalled and WU show again. .... This is an "effect" of Convenience Rollup Pack! For this reason @rhahgleuhargh built the SFX "Rollup.exe" to hide the W10-related and exactly those two KBs. Quote hideupdates(0) = "KB2952664" hideupdates(1) = "KB3021917" hideupdates(2) = "KB3035583" hideupdates(3) = "KB3068708" hideupdates(4) = "KB3075249" hideupdates(5) = "KB3080149" hideupdates(6) = "KB3123862"hideupdates(7) = "KB2446710" hideupdates(8) = "KB2478662" The SFX is on the first page. Regards, Thiersee BTW, for Hara Kiri is the issue to simple Edited June 17, 2016 by Thiersee X-Force 1 Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted June 17, 2016 Author Posted June 17, 2016 @Thiersee I like your idea ! It's cleaner than putting old RDP updates in an other Category. Adopted. ULs reploaded in few minutes. Quote
Thiersee Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 12 minutes ago, rhahgleuhargh said: @Thiersee I like your idea ! It's cleaner than putting old RDP updates in an other Category. Adopted. ULs reploaded in few minutes. If you want can I send you my modified ULs! Thiersee Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted June 17, 2016 Author Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) IT's allready done, I just forgot to move KB971033 in Common Category. UL date is marked for today. EDIT : done ! Edited June 17, 2016 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
Thiersee Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Very good, Sir! Just a question: did you intentionally leave KB971033-x86 without prefix 2- in the file-name? Have a nice weekend, Thiersee BTW: again Deep Clean uninstalled only KB2534111 (SP1 Media Refresh) and KB300475 (I forgot not to integrate it in HP...). Edit: Just a small error Quote <!-- Catégorie RDP 8.1 --> <update id="KB2813347" category="11" publishdate="2013-04-09" article="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2813347"> <title>KB2813347 - MAJ pour Windows 7 SP1 x64</title> <description>Un problème de sécurité a été identifié dans un programme Microsoft, qui pourrait affecter votre système.</description> <filename>2-RDP-Windows6.1-KB2813347-x64.msu</filename> <url>http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/2/7/62707A22-00F8-4742-9E10-C8E61DB92AD9/Windows6.1-KB2813347-x64.msu</url> </update> Should be 10... Edited June 17, 2016 by Thiersee Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted June 17, 2016 Author Posted June 17, 2016 @Thiersee No, not intentionally, it's a bug ! Correction done. Did you have KB971033 requested in x86 ? it wasn't during my test. Quote
Thiersee Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 32 minutes ago, rhahgleuhargh said: @Thiersee ....Did you have KB971033 requested in x86 ? it wasn't during my test. Actually not, but in the description from Abbodi on MDL he said its' not superseded. Quote
X-Force Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 Before the rollup KB971033 only x64. Never requested in x86 Quote
pennsylvaniaron Posted June 18, 2016 Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) guys I was experimenting with WTK and the June updates. I took a win 7_64_sp1 media refresh iso and tried integrating the convenience updates. There were 43 of them. the rollout 3125574 never got a green check. instead a ?. when I used the classic updates before this kb2533552 was put in the silent. its taking forever to complete the install. stuck on that KB2533552. also the convenience WTK try failed but the log file is too large to attach...apparently when doing the convenience I am doing something wrong... ps...looks like kb2533552 got into my silent list on the convenience package WTK. somehow liam integrated this KB into his april iso. If I use the Liams april ISO which updates in WUD should I choose? regards... Edited June 18, 2016 by pennsylvaniaron Quote
Thiersee Posted June 18, 2016 Posted June 18, 2016 @pennsylvaniaron Take a fresh ISO, the lists on the first page, WUD and put the files downloaded with the list in WTK: it works; I don't know, if it works Liam's ISO. Thiersee Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted June 18, 2016 Author Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) @pennsylvaniaron Have you move KB3020609 and KB2670838 in the prerequisite section of Wintoolkit (right-clic on the update --> move to prerequisites) ? If no that's why you can't integrate the Convenience Rollup. Edited June 18, 2016 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
pennsylvaniaron Posted June 18, 2016 Posted June 18, 2016 guys plz help with 2 things. will save me lots of time... what is Hara Kiri? how do you perform a deep clean? regards... Quote
X-Force Posted June 18, 2016 Posted June 18, 2016 1. Google Hara-Kiri 2. Cleanmgr.exe Pink_Freud 1 Quote
mooms Posted June 18, 2016 Posted June 18, 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2852386 Pink_Freud 1 Quote
pennsylvaniaron Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 mooms & xforce thx much. I thought that was the Japanese hara-kiri. thx for the link to deep clean! regards... Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted June 20, 2016 Author Posted June 20, 2016 @pennsylvaniaron Just a little precision : it was just a numeric Seppuku ! These updates make me slightly mad. Since it's better to work with an untouched ISO, you can catch the legal Windows 7 ISO version here. This very nice tool can also download Office and other Windows ISO. Quote
pennsylvaniaron Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 guys thanks again for this "wealth" of links, tools, info etc. unfortunately it comes with me asking some nubie questions. I try to figure things out first by reading what you guys are doing and the info you trade back and forth among yourselves. I made a new win 7 iso, experimenting, and tried using that deep clean msu you provided. while in my vm after the iso install I ran the deep clean msu and it said it was not for my version of windows. I am using win 7_64 and the _64 deep clean msu. is there a pre-requisite or something else I'm missing? regards... Quote
Thiersee Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, pennsylvaniaron said: ..... and tried using that deep clean msu you provided. while in my vm after the iso install I ran the deep clean msu and it said it was not for my version of windows. I am using win 7_64 and the _64 deep clean msu. is there a pre-requisite or something else I'm missing? regards... You don't need an extra-msu to do a deep clean! Either you goes on Start, Search for "cleanmgr.exe" and start it or you go on "Computer", right-click on your System Drive (usually C:) and select "Properties", then click on the "Button" (I think in english is "Clean"). Thiersee Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted June 20, 2016 Author Posted June 20, 2016 ... and you'll find the log file in C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\Deep-clean.log. Cleaned updates are usually at the end of the file. Just be carefull, KB2685811 and KB2685813 seem to be cleaned, but in fact they doesn't (only a part of them, so they still need to be integrated in your ISO). Quote
Thiersee Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 42 minutes ago, rhahgleuhargh said: .... Just be carefull, KB2685811 and KB2685813 seem to be cleaned, but in fact they doesn't (only a part of them, so they still need to be integrated in your ISO). And exactly this is the reason, because I do not integrate them, I install them later . Quote
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