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@mooms

Je mets par souci de simplicité le lien à jour sur le premier post, cela me permet d'uploader les fichiers de mon téléphone portable (je n'ai plus accès au forum de mon lieu de travail et j'y passe l'essentiel de mes journées).

Oui, je pourrais mettre la date de l'upload plutôt que celle de la sortie des mises à jour. je ferai ça la prochaine fois ! Ceci étant tu n'as pas loupé grand chose avec la nouvelle version, ce sont des mises à jour optionnelles qui sont essentiellement utiles pour l'intégration classique.

Posted

Tu ne peux pas éditer le titre sur téléphone ?

Cette V4 de IPB est vraiment moisie de toute manière, sur mon avant-dernier post il m'a foutu une quote avec les images à l'intérieur et je ne peux pas editer le contenu de la quote sans tout effacer...et à chaque fois que je valide un post il y a un délai de 30 secondes avant le rafraichissement...je pense d'ailleurs que la baisse de fréquentation de ce forum n'est pas étrangère à cette version 4...quand je compare avec le forum mesdiscussions.net utilisé entre autres par le forum de hardware.fr, ça fait mal...

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, mooms said:

Tu ne peux pas éditer le titre sur téléphone ?

Cette V4 de IPB est vraiment moisie de toute manière, sur mon avant-dernier post il m'a foutu une quote avec les images à l'intérieur et je ne peux pas editer le contenu de la quote sans tout effacer...et à chaque fois que je valide un post il y a un délai de 30 secondes avant le rafraichissement...je pense d'ailleurs que la baisse de fréquentation de ce forum n'est pas étrangère à cette version 4...quand je compare avec le forum mesdiscussions.net utilisé entre autres par le forum de hardware.fr, ça fait mal...

Oui, c'est pénible cette nouvelle version, mais je suis quand même content qu'on ait pu trouver un coin où se poser après la disparition du forum de moebius...

@Thiersee

I saw that but it's not yet available in WU. Since next Update patch is in 2 weeks, I won't update ULs until it (next cumulative IE update will certainly superseed it) !

Edited by rhahgleuhargh
Posted
37 minutes ago, rhahgleuhargh said:

@Thiersee

I saw that but it's not yet available in WU. Since next Update patch is in 2 weeks, I won't update ULs until it (next cumulative IE update will certainly superseed it) !

Of course, it was just a hint for you.

Have a nice wekk-end.

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@rhahgleuhargh

Petite erreur dans le maker pour masquer les mise à jour:

Dans For classic integration.cmd la commande est copy /b 7zsdupx.sfx + Classic.cfg + W10.7z W10.exe hors le fichier cfg s'appelle W10.cfg il faut donc changer un des deux.

Tu devrais aussi rajouter del /f /q W10.7z et del /f /q Rollup.7z afin de ne pas conserver de fichier 7z inutile.

 

Et peut-être ajouter KB3184143 aux deux scripts, à moins que tu ne comptes l'ajouter aux UL.

 

 

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@mooms,

Merci de me le signaler j'avais déjà modifié le fichier .cfg mais j'ai oublié de le reuploader. Je vais en profiter pour ajouter les deux commandes supplémentaires.

Pour KB3184143 je l'ai ajoutée dans les ULs car cette mise à jour donne une nouvelle version d'explorer.exe et shell32.dll. Il n'est pas exclue qu'elle devienne prioritaire lors du prochain Patch Tuesday. A terme de toute manière, toutes les mises à jour vont être absorbées par les patchs cumulatifs, ceci devrait commencer dès le mois prochain.

Posted

Oui j'ai vu pour KB3184143 et explorer.exe, du coup je l'ai installé sur mon système. J'en ai profité pour masquer les 12(!) màj de Silverlight, et ce n'est qu'une fois que plus aucune KB n'était proposée que WU m'a affiché KB3177467 !

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@Alpha_95

Oups, oui c'est KB3177767. Il faut effectivement l'intégrer en RunOnce, c'est pour ça qu'elle est numérotée 5-Windows6.1xxx.msu dans la liste. Pour ce que j'ai pu lire tu peux aussi l'intégrer offline, mais il n'est pas possible d'intégrer d'autres mises à jour après tant que le système n'a pas été redémarré. Je n'ai pas essayé, je l'ai directement intégré en RunOnce sur mes essais.

Posted (edited)

@pennsylvaniaron

Which instructions would you like to be updated ?

About KB3177467 ? It just needs to be integrated in RunOnce updates (some people reported problems when they tried to integrate it offline, some other succeded but until you have rebooted your system you can't integrate any update after it, so it seems to be better to put it in silent install + SFX category of Wintoolkit). I've marked this update as RunOnce in the UL, so you just have to deal with it like you do with other RunOnce updates (KB3046269). But indeed, in this case you have to do the operation manually (right-click on KB3177467 and select "move to silent install") until Wintoolkit will be updated (I'm not sure if it will). I suggest you when you select your updates to integrate :

- make a first step with all updates except the "5-" ones,

- move KB3020369 and KB2670838 in the Prerequisites category,

- select the "5-" ones : check KB3046269 and KB2603229 (for x64) for Wintoolkit installer, and then move KB3177467 in Silent install + SFX integration category (it should be the last one of the list).

I'll update the tutorial, probably at next update patch.

Edited by rhahgleuhargh
Typo error on KB number
Posted
3 hours ago, rhahgleuhargh said:

@pennsylvaniaron

Which instructions would you like to be updated ?

About KB3177767 ? It just needs to be integrated in RunOnce updates (some people reported problems when they tried to integrate it offline, some other succeded but until you have rebooted your system you can't integrate any update after it, so it seems to be better to put it in silent install + SFX category of Wintoolkit). I've marked this update as RunOnce in the UL, so you just have to deal with it like you do with other RunOnce updates (KB3040269). But indeed, in this case you have to do the operation manually (right-click on KB3177767 and select "move to silent install") until Wintoolkit will be updated (I'm not sure if it will). I suggest you when you select your updates to integrate :

- make a first step with all updates except the "5-" ones,

- move KB3020369 and KB2670838 in the Prerequisites category,

- select the "5-" ones : check KB3040269 and KB2603229 (for x64) for Wintoolkit installer, and then move KB3177767 in Silent install + SFX integration category (it should be the last one of the list).

I'll update the tutorial, probably at next update patch.

Thank you. This helps me greatly...

regards...

Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, rhahgleuhargh said:

@pennsylvaniaron

Which instructions would you like to be updated ?

About KB3177767 ? It just needs to be integrated in RunOnce updates (some people reported problems when they tried to integrate it offline, some other succeded but until you have rebooted your system you can't integrate any update after it, so it seems to be better to put it in silent install + SFX category of Wintoolkit). I've marked this update as RunOnce in the UL, so you just have to deal with it like you do with other RunOnce updates (KB3040269). But indeed, in this case you have to do the operation manually (right-click on KB3177767 and select "move to silent install") until Wintoolkit will be updated (I'm not sure if it will). I suggest you when you select your updates to integrate :

- make a first step with all updates except the "5-" ones,

- move KB3020369 and KB2670838 in the Prerequisites category,

- select the "5-" ones : check KB3040269 and KB2603229 (for x64) for Wintoolkit installer, and then move KB3177767 in Silent install + SFX integration category (it should be the last one of the list).

I'll update the tutorial, probably at next update patch.

Not to confuse others (and me too) can I assume from above quote the correct KB is kb3177467 (not kb3177767). and "check" kb3040269 is kb3046269??

regards...

Edited by pennsylvaniaron
Posted
7 hours ago, pennsylvaniaron said:

Not to confuse others (and me too) can I assume from above quote the correct KB is kb3177467 (not kb3177767). and "check" kb3040269 is kb3046269??

regards...

Yes you are right. I have some difficulties to Wright with my phone ! I'll edit the post.  

Posted

rhahgleuhargh I did as you said using the 9_20_16 UL's and made a successful classic iso. There were 8 new updates to be installed after new install on VM. I also made a successful Convenience _x64 iso which also passes SFC! (first time for me). The convenience has 7 updates (I do not include MRT and defender in my count to you). For whatever reason (I did not write them down but can look in the installed updates if need be) the convenience had 2 updates for NFW v.3.51 (security updates) and the classic did not. Although the Convenience iso is smaller it still will not fit on a dvd+r. I have to use dvd +r DL disks. No big thing they are very cheap now. I do not USB sticks. Thank you once again.

regards...

Posted (edited)

You should hide the two NFW-Updates, using the Rollup.exe, otherwise they will be requested every time; it's another (small) bug with the convenience_Rollup-Mode.

Regards, Thiersee

Edited by Thiersee
Posted
2 minutes ago, Thiersee said:

You should hide the two NFW-Updates, using the Rollup.exe, otherwise they will be requested every time; it's another (small) bug with the convenience_Rollup-Mode.

Regards, Thiersee

Thiersee thx. I never used the convenience before because I wasn't crazy about it failing SFC even though it wasn't harmful so it's been awhile. I'll have to go over my notes or look back at prior posts on the rollup and w10.exe files. I think I remember after DL the file you execute the proper CMD file but I don't remember how to edit and hide things before executing the cmd. I'll figure it out. I'm happy I've made this much progress....

regards...

Posted (edited)

Classic-Installation:
KB3188740 - October 2016 Windows 7 SP1 NET Framework 3.5.1 Security and Quality Package
KB3185330 - October 2016 Security Monthly Quality Rollup for Windows 7

KB3188740 replace KB3142042
KB3185330 replace KB3185278 - KB3076949 - KB3124280 - KB3145739 - KB3175024 - KB3178034 - KB3109094

Not tested fresh install

Thank you @Thiersee

Edited by X-Force
Posted (edited)

Hi,

 

tested on VM (fresh-installed with UL 20-09), without issues.

DeepClean uninstalled KB3175024 & KB3178034.

BTW, IE11 has been updated to version 11.0.36 (KB3191492).

 

@X-Force

KB3142042 is only for the Classic-Installation.

Edited by Thiersee
Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, Thiersee said:

Hi,

 

tested on VM (fresh-installed with UL 20-09), without issues.

DeepClean uninstalled KB3175024 & KB3178034.

BTW, IE11 has been updated to version 11.0.36 (KB3191492).

 

@X-Force

KB3142042 is only for the Classic-Installation.

 

EDIT: I just discovered I inadvertently used the "Classic" ISO to install my VM When I meant to point to "Convenience" Sorry for th muck-up :)

I tested Win 7 PRO x64 in VM Convenience, fresh-installed with UL 20-09 deepclean removes the following:
 

2016-10-11 17:23:09, Info                  CBS    Adding: Package_for_KB3076949~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.0
2016-10-11 17:23:12, Info                  CBS    Adding: Package_for_KB3109094~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.1
2016-10-11 17:23:12, Info                  CBS    Adding: Package_for_KB3124280~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.1
2016-10-11 17:23:19, Info                  CBS    Adding: Package_for_KB3175024~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.2.0
2016-10-11 17:23:19, Info                  CBS    Adding: Package_for_KB3178034~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.1
2016-10-11 17:23:21, Info                  CBS    Adding: Package_for_RollupFix~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~7601.23545.1.4

Regards :)

Edited by Pink_Freud
Posted

Hello,

Changelog des ULs identique x86/x64 :

Common Updates : KB3185330 remplace KB3175024, KB3178034, KB3185278, KB3145739 (common updates), IE 11 KB3185319, KB3076949 KB3109094 KB3124280 (classic updates)

.net FW 3.5.1 KB3188740 remplace KB3142042 (classic)

Telemetry Updates : KB2962664 v20 

Test en cours. La mise à jour d'IE 11 est maintenant incluse dans le Rollup cumulatif, reste à vérifier s'il faut d'abord intégrer l'installateur d'IE 11 dans une première passe avant d'intégrer KB3185330.

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