rhahgleuhargh Posted October 9, 2014 Author Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) Hello gillesg,Content de te revoir sur le forum.Merci pour le retour ! Vu, il y a eu un gag avec le remplacement automatique lorsque j'ai édité les listes. C'est corrigé ! L'UL corrigée est réuploadée avec la date du jour. Je ne suis pas chez moi aujourd'hui, je testerai ce soir. Edited October 9, 2014 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 9, 2014 Author Posted October 9, 2014 Hello,Il y a eu un bug avec l'UL x64 lorsque j'ai édité le contenu des listes, qui a entraîné un renommage des URL. Je viens de le corriger, mais il vous faut retélécharger l'UL. Désolé, comme je garde les mises à jour je n'ai pas pu me rendre compte du souci...Je viens de refaire un test, normalement cette fois, c'est bon !@non-french users : When I edited the x64 UL content, the name of all URL was modified, so it wasn't possible to DL anything... The bug is solved, but you'll have to redownload the x64 UL. Sorry ! Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 14, 2014 Author Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Hello,Mise à jour d'octobre ! Changelog identique x86/x64 :IE 11 : KB2987107 remplace KB2977629 (à vérifier...)Updates : .net FW 3.5.1 : ajout de KB2968294, KB2972100, et KB2979570 ; ajout de KB2949927 (remplace KB2718704 et KB2847077), KB2977292, KB3000061, KB3000869, KB3000988, KB2984972 (RDP 7.1) remplace KB2861855, KB2952664 passe en V5.A noter que sur mes deux machines x64 et x86, le remplacement de KB2952664 ne se fait pas correctement (erreur de WU), j'ai dû la désinstaller manuellement et relancer une demande de mise à jour pour que cela fonctionne.Remote Desktop Protocol : KB2994023 (RDP 8.1), KB2984976 (RDP 8.0).Sur x64 seulement (?) : ajout de KB2993928 mise à jour ASP.NET MVC 4.0.Le nettoyage de WU supprime KB2584146, KB2685939, KB2732500, KB2965788, et KB2984981.Ce sont les données que je viens de récupérer après lancement des mises à jour sur mes machines, j'éditerai le post en fonction des tests.Le temps de faire ces tests, je publierai les ULs d'ici la fin de la semaine ! Edited October 16, 2014 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
Thiersee Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Hi rhahgleuhargh, italian/german translation: work in progress if you need them again.... Just an hint:I got errors for KB2949927 and I could NOT install it; I'll try tomorrow on a fresh installed pc. Regarding KB2952664: I did not get a request from WU; I downloaded and installed it manually: no errors! Le nettoyage de WU supprime KB2584146, KB2685939, KB2718704, KB2732500, KB2847077, KB2861855, KB2965788, et KB2984981. KB2984981 ????It has been just requested by WU! Regards, Thiersee Edited October 14, 2014 by Thiersee Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 14, 2014 Author Posted October 14, 2014 KB2984981 ????It has been just requested by WU!Yes ! It's the result of deep-clean log. Strange, no ? Of course, this update is needed. Quote
Thiersee Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 Yes ! It's the result of deep-clean log. Strange, no ? Of course, this update is needed. Very strange, but it were not the first time from MS that such strange things happen....I just updated fresh installed PC and after restart I started a deep clean: indeed, KB2984981 has been uninstalled!After a restart I checked for update by WU: nothing!May be, it has only replaced a file... Anyway I'll try an installation without this update and see, what happens. Thiersee Quote
dareckibmw Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Yes ! It's the result of deep-clean log. Strange, no ? Of course, this update is needed. Very strange, but it were not the first time from MS that such strange things happen....I just updated fresh installed PC and after restart I started a deep clean: indeed, KB2984981 has been uninstalled!After a restart I checked for update by WU: nothing!May be, it has only replaced a file... Anyway I'll try an installation without this update and see, what happens. Thiersee I already done that, without KB2984981 and it wasn't offer in WU anymore. At the same time I removed KB2584146, KB2685939, KB2718704, KB2965788, KB2984981 - these were uninstalled in my previous test, after I ran DeepClean scan. Again, after a clean install in VMware, nothing shows up in WU, not even KB2993928 (ASP.NET MVC 4.0) All tested on Windows 7 SP1 Pro x64 Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 15, 2014 Author Posted October 15, 2014 Hello,This is the reason why I'm always waiting the results of tests (update via WU from previous versions of VM, and then fresh install with new lists) before I publish the ULs. Quote
Thiersee Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) Some tests made. KB2685939, KB2965788, 2984981 are RDP/RDC related. 1) installed with the actual updates but without any prerequisite for RDP/RDC, WU asked for KB2574819, KB2857650 (both prerequisite), KB2985461, KB2830477, KB2984972, KB2685939,but NOT for KB2984981.2) Deep-clean ---> KB2685939 (just requested!) superseeded and uninstalled! Same story as for KB2984981 now....3) Again searched by WU: some following updates for RDP, but no more KB2985939.... I'm doing now an integration with all the updates from the UL (without superseded) plus actual updates; I'll report, how it works. Thiersee Edit:just a question, because I have some issues: do you integrate ALL the RDP 8.1-updates at the same time, together with all other KBs? Edited October 15, 2014 by Thiersee Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 15, 2014 Author Posted October 15, 2014 @Thiersee,Yes, I integrate all RDP updates in the same time. Win Toolkit manages the prerequites itself. I never encountered any bug with last stable Win toolkit versions.This month there are 3 RDP updates (1 for RDP 8.1, one for RDP 8.0, and one for RDP 7.1). I need to make a test without RDP updates (sometimes updates are asked by WU even if you haven't install RDP 8.1) for a correct ULs edition. Hope I'll publish the ULs tomorrow ! Quote
Thiersee Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 ....I never encountered any bug with last stable Win toolkit versions.......Which do you mean with stable version? Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 15, 2014 Author Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) @Thiersee,If I remember good version 1.4.47.2.I just had a quick look on the recent 1.5.x versions, but didn't use them for my integration tests (just tested 1.5.07). Edited October 15, 2014 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
Thiersee Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 With version 1.5.2.11 works too. Thiersee Quote
Thiersee Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Hi rhahgleuhargh, just an info for you before you publish the ULs: KB2949927 replaces not only KB2847077 but KB2862966 tooKB2984972 replaces not only KB2861855 but KB2932378 too Sources:KB2949927KB2984972 I integrated without this two KBs on x86 and x64 (VM): no problems and no asks by WU. An hint regarding .NET-Framework 3.5.1: there is a Rollup-Hotfix KB3000056, you could put it in the UL, if you want and if you find out a download-link; I got it by WHD. Thiersee Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 16, 2014 Author Posted October 16, 2014 @ThierseeThank you for the tip ! I deleted KB2862966 from ULs (didn't find KB2932378).I'm beginning the tests with Win Toolkit 1.5.2.11. Quote
dareckibmw Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 Yeah, I used v.1.5.2.11 with no problems. btw.There must be something wrong with KB2949927, it has been pulled from their servers http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2949927 Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 16, 2014 Author Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) @dareckibmwThx for report. Curious, I downloaded without any pb this KB one hour ago.@TousTests OK avec Win Toolkit 1.5.2.11. Voici les listes mises à jour.Changelog :IE 11 : KB2987107 remplace KB2977629Updates :.net FW 3.5.1 : ajout de KB2968294, KB2972100, et KB2979570 ;KB2949927 (remplace KB2718704, KB2847077, et KB2862966), KB2977292, KB3000061, KB3000869, KB3000988, KB2984972 (RDP 7.1 demandée même si les mises à jour RDP ne sont pas installées, remplace KB2982378). KB2952664 passe en V5.RDP : KB2994023 (RDP 8.1), KB2984976 (RDP 8.0) remplace KB2861855.Suppression de KB2584146, KB2685939*, et KB2965788.*Attention, KB2685939 est demandée par WU si le RDP n'est pas installé. Modification des noms des dossiers (peu important) pour recommander les mises à jour RDP. Edited October 17, 2014 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 16, 2014 Author Posted October 16, 2014 @Alpha_95Non, je n'ai pas fini de tester la liste x64, l'intégration est en cours.Patiente une petite heure ! Quote
Thiersee Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 @ThierseeThank you for the tip ! I deleted KB2862966 from ULs (didn't find KB2932378)......My mistake, silly me!I meant KB2982378! Thiersee Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 16, 2014 Author Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) @ThierseeThank you for the tip ! I deleted KB2862966 from ULs (didn't find KB2932378)......My mistake, silly me!I meant KB2982378! Thiersee No problem !Just tested on my both VM, you're right ! Thx for return !ULs updated, previous post updated.Now, there are 150 updates, 7 RDP updates, 4 IE 11 updates on x64 and x86 ULs (1 RunOnce update for x86, 2 for x64). Edited October 16, 2014 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 16, 2014 Author Posted October 16, 2014 WTK trie par ordre pour l'intégration de ce "pack" ?Oui, tu peux balancer toutes les mises à jour d'un seul coup : Win Toolkit va faire le tri entre les updates et celles d'IE, va déplacer les updates RunOnce dans "silent install + SFX", et intégrera les updates prérequises (en particulier pour RDP) dans l'ordre nécessaire. Just un truc que j'ai remarqué avec la dernière version de Win toolkit qui te fera gagner du temps : remonte avec les flèches l'installateur d'IE 11 avant les 4 mises à jour IE, sinon Win Toolkit va essayer de les intégrer avant (ce qui bien sûr ne va pas marcher, mais il réessayera une fois IE 11 intégré). Quote
Thiersee Posted October 16, 2014 Posted October 16, 2014 WTK trie par ordre pour l'intégration de ce "pack" ?Oui, tu peux balancer toutes les mises à jour d'un seul coup : Win Toolkit va faire le tri entre les updates et celles d'IE, va déplacer les updates RunOnce dans "silent install + SFX", et intégrera les updates prérequises (en particulier pour RDP) dans l'ordre nécessaire. Just un truc que j'ai remarqué avec la dernière version de Win toolkit qui te fera gagner du temps : remonte avec les flèches l'installateur d'IE 11 avant les 4 mises à jour IE, sinon Win Toolkit va essayer de les intégrer avant (ce qui bien sûr ne va pas marcher, mais il réessayera une fois IE 11 intégré). Not 100% thru, sorry! You should follow a sequence for some RDP-related updates:KB2994023: requires 2830477 installedKB2984976: requires KB2894972 and KB2592687 installed If the requirements are positioned after KB2994023 / KB2984976 WTK marks them with a black cross in a first step and then, at the end of ALL the updates retry to integrate them: this happens without issues. The best is to put ALL the RDP updates from the UL at the beginning. Thiersee Quote
dareckibmw Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) Hi rhahgleuhargh, just an info for you before you publish the ULs: KB2949927 replaces not only KB2847077 but KB2862966 tooKB2984972 replaces not only KB2861855 but KB2932378 tooThiersee Funny thing, as I ran few more tests and now KB2862966 shows up on WU! so I integrated it, ran another test and .....nothing on WU! Edited October 17, 2014 by dareckibmw Quote
rhahgleuhargh Posted October 17, 2014 Author Posted October 17, 2014 (edited) @dareckibmwthx for return. KB2862966 wasn't asked yesterday during my test in VM x64 (all updates integrated, even RDP). I'll have a look this evening. Maybe it's due to the pb you reported with KB2949927 ? if this update has been deleted by MS, it would be normal. If confirmed, I'll put back KB2862966 in ULs.@Alpha_95Merci pour le test. KB2862966 n'était pas demandé lors de mon test d'hier en MV x64, mais apparemment, il y aurait un souci avec KB2949927 qui la remplace : si ce KB a été retiré par MS, c'est donc normal que l'ancienne mise à jour soit demandée. Je referai un test ce soir. Auquel cas je remettrai KB2862966 dans les ULs.KB890830 c'est MRT, icare devrait la mettre à jour incessamment sous peu, tu pourras alors l'intégrer avec l'argument /y dans la section "Silent install + SFX" de Win Toolkit. KB15597, ce sont les défintions de Windows Defender, je ne les inclue pas dans les listes.@Thiersee,Good to know ; I saw it for IE 11 installer and updates, not for RDP ! It could save some precious minutes during integration (about 30 min for x86, and 40 min for x64 with my configuration).@tousJe suis en train d'analyser le package de chaque KB dans Windows Update Catalog (très gros travail, car chaque KB remplace entre 0 et 20 KB précédentes, avec des différences entre les versions x86 et x64). Pour le moment j'ai trouvé encore une KB obsolète, j'éditerai les ULs en fonction... Edited October 17, 2014 by rhahgleuhargh Quote
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