Dietmar Posted February 13, 2022 Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) I noticed the crash always when closing Firefox or Basilisk browser also on other z690 mainboards. Bsod is 0xC0000005, basilisk or one of its files write in not allowed memory. The crash is not serious, but always wants to send message about this crash. It happens because of a driver(?), but which? And now I do not think, that it is the Nvidia driver in 1. place. Because when I do a Diagnostic start of XP SP3 (command line "msconfig", first "diagnostic start" only very few drivers), the crash of Firefox does not happen, even Nvidia and Internet still work. EDIT: I make a new test with a brandnew install of original XP SP3, only with modded acpi.sys and the Storahci driver from Kai Schtrom. Firefox works without any crash until the Nvidia driver is installed. No other driver at work, all disabled. At once after reboot with installed Nvidia driver, even without installed networkdriver(!), Firefox crashes on closing. So, it is a real crash of Firefox and also Basilisk on z690 boards together with Nvidia driver, here for GT 730 but also for GTX 980 Dietmar Here is the message from Firefox, direct after crash on shutdown of Firefox AdapterDeviceID: 0x1287 AdapterDriverVersion: 6.14.13.4411 AdapterSubsysID: 730b19da AdapterVendorID: 0x10de Add-ons: %7B972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd%7D:52.9.0,hotfix-bug-1548973%40mozilla.org:1.1.4,aushelper%40mozilla.org:2.0,e10srollout%40mozilla.org:1.10,firefox%40getpocket.com:1.0.5,webcompat%40mozilla.org:1.0 AddonsShouldHaveBlockedE10s: 0 AsyncPluginShutdownStates: {clearkey:{ec0e400:"S=CloseActive"},gmpopenh264:{ea9c400:"S=CloseActive"},-:{-:"012345=Async shutdown complete"}} AvailablePageFile: 33420980224 AvailablePhysicalMemory: 33410641920 AvailableVirtualMemory: 1685942272 BIOS_Manufacturer: American Megatrends International, LLC. BlockedDllList: BreakpadReserveAddress: 82509824 BreakpadReserveSize: 67108864 BuildID: 20180621064021 CPUMicrocodeVersion: 0x1a ContentSandboxCapable: 1 ContentSandboxLevel: 1 CrashTime: 1644749626 E10SCohort: disqualified-test EMCheckCompatibility: true FramePoisonBase: 00000000f0de0000 FramePoisonSize: 65536 InstallTime: 1644695903 Notes: AdapterVendorID: 0x10de, AdapterDeviceID: 0x1287, AdapterSubsysID: 730b19da, AdapterDriverVersion: 6.14.13.4411 FP(D00-L1000-W00001000-T0000) D2D1.1? D2D1.1- D3D9 Layers? 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Firefox crash on brandnew XP SP3 install without(!) network card, so without any connection to a webside: AdapterDeviceID: 0x1287 AdapterDriverVersion: 6.14.13.4411 AdapterSubsysID: 730b19da AdapterVendorID: 0x10de Add-ons: %7B972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd%7D:52.9.1,aushelper%40mozilla.org:2.0,e10srollout%40mozilla.org:1.10,firefox%40getpocket.com:1.0.5,webcompat%40mozilla.org:1.0 AddonsShouldHaveBlockedE10s: 0 AsyncPluginShutdownStates: {clearkey:{eadc800:"S=CloseActive"},-:{-:"012345=Async shutdown complete"}} AvailablePageFile: 937099264 AvailablePhysicalMemory: 549994496 AvailableVirtualMemory: 1713790976 BIOS_Manufacturer: American Megatrends International, LLC. 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Edited February 13, 2022 by Dietmar Quote
Dietmar Posted February 13, 2022 Posted February 13, 2022 Interesting, that most of the z690 boards are nearly identic. They make use of the whole z690 chipset and thats all. So you can use one XP SP3 installation for all of them Dietmar Quote
infuscomus Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 @Dietmar Can you do a similar thing with AMD 300/400/500 chipsets? Quote
juk777 Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 5 hours ago, infuscomus said: AMD 300/400/500 chipsets? ASUS Prime B350-Plus all super! Quote
Dietmar Posted February 14, 2022 Posted February 14, 2022 I make some test on the Asrock Extreme z690 board, which is best until now for XP SP3 from all z690 boards, that I tested. When you disable ALL of the less powerfull E-cores in Bios from 12900k cpu, the crash of Firefox Browser is gone. But what is this: Geekbench and Cinebench suddently show with remaining 8 P cores nearly exact the same Benchmark tests as an 8700k cpu^^. Advance looks other in my eyes Dietmar Quote
Toopins Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 Hi everybody. I installed XP a year ago. Thank To you. But I can 't find Hibernate . It's real ? Quote
Dietmar Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 @Toopins Yes, no Hibernation of XP for board >=Skylake Dietmar Toopins 1 Quote
Toopins Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) Oh, I have exactly Skylake G4400. I spent a year looking for a black hibernate mouse in a dark room? But XP will stay with me forever Edited February 15, 2022 by Toopins Quote
Levi2002 Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 @Dietmar What happens if you use a Radeon graphics card and its driver? Quote
Dietmar Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 @Levi2002 I dont have any newer Radeon graphics card Dietmar Quote
Dietmar Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) I test also the Msi pro z690-a ddr4 board with 12900k cpu for XP SP3. Only with the very first Bios 7D25v10 2021-09-15 I succeed to boot XP SP3 (only after CMOS reset). On the PS/2 slot keyboard and mouse do not work together, only one each. Not possible in Bios to deselect the less powerful E-cores. Under XP SP3, restart also does not work, compi hangs on reboot. I dont like this board. Very much I like the Asrock z690 Extreme, where you can set a lot in Bios. And this is the only board until now, that works flawless under XP SP3 with 12900k cpu and 32 Gbyte ram. I can boot XP from Harddisk, USB, nvme, ram, all works on this nice board Dietmar Edited February 19, 2022 by Dietmar Quote
Dallen Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 I finally got XP working on my z390 dark. Turned out the CPU I received was dead. I feel like its been discussed before, but I'm struggling to find a good resource for installing XP to NVME. I'm worried about buying one and then its not compatible. Is there a gotcha, like a particular brand to prefer for a driver? I feel like I read something about Samsung working better, but I either can't find it again or I dreamed it. Quote
infuscomus Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 @Dietmar what NVMe drive do you recommend for XP? Quote
Dietmar Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) @infuscomus @Dallen Best for XP nvme boot is an Intel Optane drive, I have Optane 905p with 960 Gbyte. No need for any trim on this Optane nvme device. It is still the fastest nvme of all. But hard to find now and very expensive. Normal nvme device you can choose, whatever you want for XP. The newer the nvme drive, the more bad its quality. I prefer Samsung 950 Pro (very special nvme with own Bios), 960 Pro, 970 Pro, 980 Pro. The best nvme driver for XP is this one, ported from Win8.1 by @Mov AX, 0xDEAD https://ufile.io/i6arez1e I would not use the Samsung nvme driver because of its crazy filterdriver Dietmar Edited February 20, 2022 by Dietmar Quote
Dallen Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) Now that you mention it, I actually have one of the PCI-E intel optane drives. I completely forgot about it. I wonder if I can fit that into the build. Thank you @Dietmar! Edit: Looking at optane a bit more and its really cool. TBH when I first bought the drive, I was merely copying a freenas user's build trying to learn from it several years ago. I didn't completely understand why they were picking it. Will be keeping an eye out for more. Edited February 20, 2022 by Dallen Gushing over Dietmar's pro tip Quote
Mov AX, 0xDEAD Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 11 hours ago, Dietmar said: @infuscomus @Dallen The best nvme driver for XP is this one, ported from Win8.1 by @Mov AX, 0xDEAD I didn't ported any Win8.1 NVMe drivers Quote
gordo999 Posted February 21, 2022 Posted February 21, 2022 Hi guys...just checking in. Nothing to say, so I'll shut up. Dietmar and George King 2 Quote
infuscomus Posted February 21, 2022 Posted February 21, 2022 @Mov AX, 0xDEAD Sorry, We have a tendency to just assume that any ported driver for XP out there was made by you. who made this one then? @daniel_k ? Quote
Mov AX, 0xDEAD Posted February 21, 2022 Posted February 21, 2022 11 hours ago, infuscomus said: @Mov AX, 0xDEAD who made this one then? @daniel_k ? I don't have NVMe hardware and it is very bad emulated by vmware/virtualbox, all my attemps to make working NVMe under VM was failed. My answer - yes, Daniel made many storage drivers for x86 and x64. Quote
Dietmar Posted February 22, 2022 Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) I make some tests with the Alder lake 12600 cpu on the Biostar Valkyre z690A board under XP SP3 with all updates. This cpu has only 6 power cores, 12 threads exact as the 8700k, no E-cores. Now comes bad surprise: Even in benchmark they told, that this cpu should be as fast as the 11900k, this is a lie. CinebenchR11.5 shows 15.01 Points on 12600 cpu and CinebenchR11.5 shows 14.57 Points on 8700k. Geekbench2.4 shows 17920 points on 12600 and Geekbench2.4 shows 19517 points on 8700k. This Benchmark results from the 12600 cpu fit nearly exact with my AMD Ryzen 1700x cpu. Another bad effect I noticed: With the same cooler, the 12900k cpu reaches 56 degree when power consumption is about 104 Watt. But for the 12600 cpu, with 40 Watt the termperature reaches 58 degree. May be, that this is a problem, how the speed of the Dark 4 Pro cooler is set, depending on Watt and temperature on the Biostar z690A board Dietmar PS: Serial debug does not work on any of the z690 boards, even with integrated COM port Serial Windbg not works. Edited February 22, 2022 by Dietmar Quote
juk777 Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 14 hours ago, Dietmar said: my AMD Ryzen 1700x cpu Greetings to you! And can I find out - on which motherboard does it work for you? Quote
Vertex Posted February 24, 2022 Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) Hello, I'm trying to install XP 32 SP3 on the Z690 Tachyon, I have the ACPI files (no A5 error) but i have a 7B BSOD in install process. Install using Grub. Any idea about that 7B bsod ? I also have a Z590 APex backup but it bsod at win startup on 7B too. Edited February 24, 2022 by Vertex Quote
infuscomus Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 @Vertex You might be running into the 7B BSOD if you're using USB to install XP. To get around this you can use something like Easy2boot which will let you load the installer into RAM and then boot off of it. This will get around the 7B BSOD. Quote
Dietmar Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 @Vertex Use the Sata driver from Kai Schtrom. This are the most generic drivers for AHCI devices until now Dietmar https://sourceforge.net/projects/storahci-for-windows-2003/files/latest/download Toopins 1 Quote
Dietmar Posted February 25, 2022 Posted February 25, 2022 I just build an XP SP3 with the Sata driver from Kai and the storport.sys with SMART support, with all updates for XP and my last acpi.sys from last August. For USB I use the from Win8.1 ported driver. It boots XP SP3 on all(!) my Intel boards from x58 to z690, always all USB works, niccccee Dietmar Andalu and imadam__ 2 Quote
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