blackace Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 (edited) Hi everyone. I'm planning to buy a new motherboard because my pc's motherboard doesn't have a pci-e slot and there's no agp8x videocard available in our market right now. I've read on some websites that electro static wrist strap is important when constructing a new pc. I will only buy a motherboard which is LGA 775 socket because my old motherboard is also using that socket. Is it a good idea that i will wrap my fingers with electrical tape as an alternate method using the electro static wrist strap because there is no electro static wrist strap available in our market.... another thing is that, can i use the old devices in my motherboard? such as DDR2 RAM, HDD, COMBO CD WRITER, PCI MODEM.. The motherboard that i will buy is just similar to my old but it has pci-e and it is new but it is still DDR2, ATX, and LGA 775 Socket.... Can i still use my old cpu? it's expensive to buy a new cpu.. Sir N1K and to all Members, I need your help..THANK YOU VERY MUCH :welcome: :thumbsup_anim: :sweatingbullets:btw, here's the spec for my old motherboard:CPU LGA775 socket for latest Intel Core 2 Duo / Pentium D / Pentium 4 / Celeron D processor FSB 1066/800/533 MHz Support Hyper-Threading Technology CHIPSET VIA® P4M800Pro & VT8237R+ North Bridge: VIA® P4M800Pro South Bridge: VIA® VT8237R+ GRAPHICS Integrated S3 UniChrome 2D/3D Graphics MEMORY 2 x 240-pin DDR2 DIMM socket support up to 2 GB Support DDR2 533 DDR2 SDRAM EXPANSION SLOT 1 x AGP 8X slot 3 x PCI slots 1 x CNR slot STORAGE Supported by VIA VT8237R+ 4 x Ultra DMA133/100/66 devices 2 x Serial ATA devices RAID0 & RAID1 configuration AUDIO Realtek ALC655 6-Channel audio CODEC Compliant with AC'97 2.3 specification LAN VIA® VT6103L 10/100 Mbps Fast Ethernet PHY REAR PANEL I/O 1 x PS/2 keyboard & PS/2 mouse connectors 1 x Parallel port (LPT) 1 x Serial port (COM1) 1 x VGA port 4 x USB ports 1 x RJ45 LAN connector 1 x Audio port (Line-in, Line-out, Mic-in) INTERNAL I/O CONNECTORS & HEADERS 1 x 24-pin ATX Power Supply connector 1 x 4-pin ATX 12V connector 1 x FDD connector 2 x IDE connectors 2 x Serial ATA connectors 2 x USB 2.0 headers support additional 4 USB Ports 1 x Buzzer 1 x IrDA for SIR header 1 x Front panel switch/LED header 1 x Front panel audio header AUX-in header 1 x CD in header CPUFAN/SYSFAN connectors SYSTEM BIOS AMI BIOS with 4Mb Flash ROM Supports Plug and Play 1.0A, APM 1.2, Multi Boot, DMI Supports ACPI revision 1.0 specification FORM FACTOR Micro-ATX Size, 244mm*220mmthe spec of the motherboard that i will buy: CPU LGA775 socket for Intel Pentium 4/ Celeron D/ Pentium D processor FSB 1066/800/533 MHz Support Hyper-Threading Technology CHIPSET Intel® 945P & ICH7R North Bridge: Intel® 945P South Bridge: Intel® ICH7R MEMORY Dual-channel DDR2 memory architecture 4 x 240-pin DDR2 DIMM socket support up to 4 GB Support DDR2 667/533/400 DDR2 SDRAM EXPANSION SLOT 2 x PCI Express x16 slots 2 x PCI Express x16 slot (Orange : x16 mode, Blue : x4 mode) 1 x PCI Express x1 slot * 2 x PCI Express x1 slot (x1 or *diabled mode) 3 x PCI slots *when use two PCI Express VGA card, this slot is disable STORAGE Supported by Intel®ICH7R 2 x Ultra DMA100/66 devices 4 x Serial ATAII 3.0Gb/s devices RAID0, RAID1, RAID0+1, RAID5 configuration Supported by SiI3132 2 x Serial ATAII 3.0Gb/s devices RAID0, RAID1& e-SATA configuration AUDIO Realtek ALC880 8-channel audio CODEC IEEE 1394a VIA® VT6307, support 2x IEEE1394a ports DUAL LAN Marvell 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit LAN controller Realtek RTL8100C 10/100 LAN controller REAR PANEL I/O 1 x PS/2 keyboard & PS/2 mouse connectors 4 x USB ports 2 x RJ45 LAN connectors 1 x 1394a connector (4-pin) 1 x SPDIF in connector 1 x Serial port (COM1) 1 x FAN Duct 1 x Audio port (Line-in,4x Line-out, SPDIF out) INTERNAL I/O CONNECTORS & HEADERS 1 x 24-pin ATX Power Supply connector 1 x 4-pin ATX 12V connector 1 x FDD connector supports two 360K~2.88MB FDDs 1 x IrDA for SIR header 1 x Speaker header 1 x 1394a header 2 x USB 2.0 headers support additional 4 USB Ports 6 x Serial ATA 3Gb/s connectors 1 x Front panel switch/LED header 1 x Front panel audio header 1 x CD in header CPUFAN/NB_FAN/3x SYSFAN connectors SYSTEM BIOS AMI BIOS with 4Mb Flash ROM Supports Plug and Play 1.0A, APM 1.2, Multi Boot, DMI Supports ACPI revision 1.0 specification FORM FACTOR ATX Size, 305mm*244mm Edited February 14, 2010 by blackace Quote
5eraph Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 Links to the motherboard spec sheets would be more useful. Or just the specific names and model numbers so we could Google them ourselves. Some motherboards are very specific about the processors and memory that can be used. This information is absolutely necessary when swapping parts. Quote
NIM Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 If I'm correct, you can safely go with the MBO I have.It is a ASUS P5E. Since it is more than 2 years old now, it shouldn't be very expensive.http://asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=cPrufUGXUlY9OsYv Quote
LUZR4LIFE Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 Your old and new mobo are both LGA775 so the CPU will be a easy swap, both mobos support 533 so RAM is fine. You can use a static strap if you want to, I don't use them personally. As long as you ground yourself out your fine. You can ground your self out by touching anything metal in the case. Quote
Kelsenellenelvian Posted February 14, 2010 Posted February 14, 2010 Your old and new mobo are both LGA775 so the CPU will be a easy swap, both mobos support 533 so RAM is fine. You can use a static strap if you want to, I don't use them personally. As long as you ground yourself out your fine. You can ground your self out by touching anything metal in the case.Neither do I. Just have a seat on the floor and touch you case ALOT (I try to keep one hanf on it all the time) and you'll be fine.... Quote
LUZR4LIFE Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 Neither do I. Just have a seat on the floor and touch you case ALOT (I try to keep one hanf on it all the time) and you'll be fine....Yeah, I kind of leave my forearm on the case. I had to use the straps when I was in school and I personally think they get in the way. In school I did a tear down and build in 16 minutes. LOL. For 3 months (Hardware Semester) we had to tear down and build our system every morning. It got so boring. Quote
blackace Posted February 15, 2010 Author Posted February 15, 2010 Yeah, I kind of leave my forearm on the case. I had to use the straps when I was in school and I personally think they get in the way. In school I did a tear down and build in 16 minutes. LOL. For 3 months (Hardware Semester) we had to tear down and build our system every morning. It got so boring.thanks for the replies guys. well this will be my first time to install a motherboard on my own because I'm only looking forward to the pci-e feature of the motherboards and its similarity specs with my old "mobo".. What will be the bad effects of transferring the parts of my old MOBO to the new MOBO like the processor, cpu fan, hard disk, ram, cd drives, modems etc.. what problems will i perhaps encounter? I also want to ask to some of you who already bought mobo on their own, Does new MOBO includes thermal cooling paste? if not, where is it included? is it necessary to apply new thermal cooling to the new MOBO? or i just install it as normal? :thumbsup_anim: :welcome: :sweatingbullets: Quote
LUZR4LIFE Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 (edited) The only time you will get thermal paste is when you buy a new CPU or heatsink. You will have to purchase that separate. Everything is pretty much just plug and play. A couple things to look out for is watch how you but your RAM and CPU in, they do only go in one way. On the CPU look for a little arrow in the corner of the CPU, there will also be a little arrow on the CPU socket. With the RAM, just make sure that the notch on the RAM lines up with the notch in the slot before you push down. There are several videos online. Edited February 15, 2010 by LUZR4LIFE Quote
Mr_Smartepants Posted February 15, 2010 Posted February 15, 2010 Oh God that's the funniest thing I've seen all week!Priceless Quote
blackace Posted February 16, 2010 Author Posted February 16, 2010 The only time you will get thermal paste is when you buy a new CPU or heatsink. You will have to purchase that separate. Everything is pretty much just plug and play. A couple things to look out for is watch how you but your RAM and CPU in, they do only go in one way. On the CPU look for a little arrow in the corner of the CPU, there will also be a little arrow on the CPU socket. With the RAM, just make sure that the notch on the RAM lines up with the notch in the slot before you push down. There are several videos online. thank you for this videos it helps a lot.. what about my cpu? will i encounter overheating because I didn't apply thermal cooling paste? It's Pentium D... Quote
LUZR4LIFE Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 thank you for this videos it helps a lot.. what about my cpu? will i encounter overheating because I didn't apply thermal cooling paste? It's Pentium D...Yes, it will overheat, you must use a thermal paste. If there is no thermal paste the heatsink will not pull all of the heat from the CPU. Quote
blackace Posted February 17, 2010 Author Posted February 17, 2010 Yes, it will overheat, you must use a thermal paste. If there is no thermal paste the heatsink will not pull all of the heat from the CPU. :thumbsup_anim: well, all your tips really helps.. I'm going to start buyinga new motherboard and thermal cooling paste, that's what I need for now.. When I'm holding the new Motherboard and my Old CPU, I must put my other hand to the metal case in order to discharge the static electricity, right? :icon_cool: Quote
LUZR4LIFE Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 This explains it pretty good. I couldn't find a video that shows it. Maybe I can borrow a camera from a friend and take some pics. Quote
Mr_Smartepants Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 An ESD wrist strap would cost you maybe $1 and is very handy to have. I keep one in my repair bag. I used to just grow a third arm, but I got strange looks so I got the ESD strap. The main thing to remember with ESD is that the voltage potentials must be equalized BEFORE you touch the items. So keep all your parts on the same surface, don't move around too much, and try to rest your arm on a metal casing (that's grounded) at all times. It's awkward, but works. And always handle the items by their edges. NEVER touch exposed connectors, EVEN WHEN GROUNDED! Quote
LUZR4LIFE Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 An ESD wrist strap would cost you maybe $1 and is very handy to have. I keep one in my repair bag. I used to just grow a third arm, but I got strange looks so I got the ESD strap. You sure it was a arm and not a leg. LOL Quote
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