guillermo.dev Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) Hi,I wanted to remove some components using the all in one tool in order to make the Windows installed size smaller, but I think it's even bigger than before (9gigabytes on a freshly formatted partition).This is what I did:1- Mount image.2- Remove all editions but the one I wanted (Professional)3- Rebuild.4- Open the all in one tool and remove the following components:#ComponentsAppFrabicAustralia Local PackBitLocker Drive EncryptionBroadcom DriversCanada Local PackCommon Modem DriversDVD MakerGreat Britain Local PackHyper-V VMBUS DriverIIS Addons 1IIS Addons 2Inbox GamesIndexing ServiceInternet GamesInternet Information ServicesMicrosoft XPS Document WriterMicrosoft-Hyper-V-GuestMobile PC Client SideShow ComponentsMobile PC Sensors ALS DriverMusic and Video ExamplesMusic and Video Examples (Ringtones)Network File System (NFS) protocolNew Zealand Local PackParental ControlsPeer networking InfrastructurePremium Inbox GamesPrinter DriversRAS Connection Manager Administration Kit (CMAK)Remote AssistanceRemote Desktop Services Command Line ToolsRemote Desktop Services Publishing WMI ProviderRemote Desktop Services WMI ProviderSimple Network Management Protocol (SNMP)Snipping ToolsSubsystem for UNIX-based ApplicationsSystem RestoreTablet PC ComponentsTelnet ServerTerminal Services Miscellaneous RedirectionTerminal Services Remote Applications ClientTerminal Services Usb RedirectorTFTP ClientTV Tuner DriversUnited States Local PackWindows Media CenterWindows Media Codec Pack EncoderWindows Recovery DiscWindows SearchWMI SNMP ProviderXPS ViewerBy the way, XPS Viewer is still there...Besides that, I apply some tweaks and an unattended file. Then, I create the ISO.What am I doing wrong?Edit: I checked the "Component Remover" and I can only see about 5 packages. I think this has something to do.Thanks for the help Edited October 25, 2011 by guillermo.dev Quote
Legolash2o Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 Did you rebuild the image before you created the ISO? Quote
gbates Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 I have the same problem, when I mount unchanged windows 7 ultimate sp1 image, and choose Component Removal I see only 5 packages. Quote
guillermo.dev Posted October 25, 2011 Author Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) Did you rebuild the image before you created the ISO?The iso maker rebuilds it again, I checked that option. Or do I have to do it manually and then let the iso maker rebuild it once more?Edit: I'm working on a Spanish edition, in case it matters.Edit2: I try rebuilding before creating the iso, and nothing changes. Edited October 25, 2011 by guillermo.dev Quote
gbates Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 Looks like it's not the problem with W7T.This is what dism returns with Get-Packages (untouched win7 sp1 iso):Deployment Image Servicing and Management toolVersion: 6.1.7600.16385Image Version: 6.1.7601.17514Packages listing:Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-Client-LanguagePack-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~6.1.7601.17514State : Install PendingRelease Type : Language PackInstall Time : 12/04/2011 08:28Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-Client-Refresh-LanguagePack-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~6.1.7601.17514State : Install PendingRelease Type : Language PackInstall Time : 12/04/2011 08:28Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-CodecPack-Basic-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.7601.17514State : InstalledRelease Type : Feature PackInstall Time : 21/11/2010 03:40Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-Foundation-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.7601.17514State : InstalledRelease Type : FoundationInstall Time : 21/11/2010 03:40Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-IE-Troubleshooters-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~6.1.7601.17514State : Install PendingRelease Type : Language PackInstall Time : 12/04/2011 08:28Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-IE-Troubleshooters-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.7601.17514State : InstalledRelease Type : Feature PackInstall Time : 21/11/2010 03:40Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-InternetExplorer-Optional-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~en-US~8.0.7601.17514State : Install PendingRelease Type : Language PackInstall Time : 12/04/2011 08:28Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-InternetExplorer-Optional-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~8.0.7601.17514State : InstalledRelease Type : Feature PackInstall Time : 21/11/2010 03:40Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-LocalPack-AU-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.7601.17514State : Install PendingRelease Type : Local PackInstall Time : 12/04/2011 08:30Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-LocalPack-CA-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.7601.17514State : Install PendingRelease Type : Local PackInstall Time : 12/04/2011 08:31Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-LocalPack-GB-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.7601.17514State : Install PendingRelease Type : Local PackInstall Time : 12/04/2011 08:31Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-LocalPack-US-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.7601.17514State : Install PendingRelease Type : Local PackInstall Time : 12/04/2011 08:31Package Identity : Microsoft-Windows-LocalPack-ZA-Package~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.7601.17514State : Install PendingRelease Type : Local PackInstall Time : 12/04/2011 08:32Package Identity : Package_for_KB2534111~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.0State : Install PendingRelease Type : HotfixInstall Time : 12/04/2011 08:18Package Identity : Package_for_KB976902~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.1.17514State : InstalledRelease Type : UpdateInstall Time : 21/11/2010 03:01The operation completed successfully.Maybe I'm wrong but shouldn't there be many more packages? Quote
Legolash2o Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 Most stuff Windows removes during install and it just gets marked as 'pending removal', so after install it is smaller. For v1.4.0 i will be doing a lot of work to the component removal so things may change then and allow you to get smaller images. Quote
gbates Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 The output posted before was made from offline image:This is what I did:1. I've unpacked "retail" iso to folder c:\win72. mounted c:\win7\sources\install.wim with dism to c:\mount\offilne3. read packages with dism's Get-Packages commandSo if I didn't remove anything before, just unpack iso and mount wim file - should this get-packages list be so short? Quote
guillermo.dev Posted October 25, 2011 Author Posted October 25, 2011 Most stuff Windows removes during install and it just gets marked as 'pending removal', so after install it is smaller. For v1.4.0 i will be doing a lot of work to the component removal so things may change then and allow you to get smaller images.The problem is not only that the iso is the same size, if I install Windows, it's almost the same size as with no component removal. I removed XPS Viewer, and I still have XPS viewer. As gbates says, its suspicious that the component list is so small. Quote
guillermo.dev Posted October 25, 2011 Author Posted October 25, 2011 And this is what I get with install_wim_tweak.exe 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guillermo.dev Posted October 25, 2011 Author Posted October 25, 2011 I can tell the difference :-)Shouldn't we see that list in W7 Toolkit? Quote
gbates Posted October 26, 2011 Posted October 26, 2011 (edited) If you "open" mounted image in W7T after you unhid packages with registry tweak tool you should see whole list in Components Removal.It's strange though it is not default in W7T Edited October 26, 2011 by gbates Quote
bphlpt Posted October 26, 2011 Posted October 26, 2011 I don't usually remove ANYTHING. But if removing the packages is "safe", (if you have a basic idea what you are doing), and it is a supported method, then I agree that there should maybe be a checkbox option to show the extended list of removable packages vs just the basic list.Cheers and Regards Quote
guillermo.dev Posted October 26, 2011 Author Posted October 26, 2011 If you "open" mounted image in W7T after you unhid packages with registry tweak tool you should see whole list in Components Removal.It's strange though it is not default in W7TI tried, but got the same list as before. Did it work for you? I noticed in the components removal tool status bar that there was a message like "Hiding packages". Quote
zavan Posted October 26, 2011 Posted October 26, 2011 (edited) If you "open" mounted image in W7T after you unhid packages with registry tweak tool you should see whole list in Components Removal.It's strange though it is not default in W7TMaybe we should request it... Edited October 26, 2011 by zavan Quote
guillermo.dev Posted October 26, 2011 Author Posted October 26, 2011 (edited) Maybe we should request it...Finally got it working. I unhid the packages, rebuilt and unmounted the image, then mounted it again and opened the component removal window.Edit: it didn't really work. I could see the packages, but most of them were not removed. The iso only shrank about 30mbs, and after that, I can see most of the packages I removed using install_wim_tweak.exe.I agree, this should be requested. Legolash? Edited October 26, 2011 by guillermo.dev Quote
bphlpt Posted October 26, 2011 Posted October 26, 2011 What happens if you remove the packages manually with dism? Does the size shrink? From what I understand, W7T is basically a GUI for tools like dism and others with a few tweaks, to GROSSLY over simplify things. (No offense or disrespect meant, Legolash. Nor is this meant to minimize your VERY hard work or our great respect we have for this very valuable tool and all the time you have put in to it. It is the BEST tool out there of its type and is getting better with every update.) It doesn't really hack the OS. If you can find an existing MS tool that does what you want it to do in a supported manner, then I'm sure that will make it easier for Legolash to include the function in W7T.Cheers and Regards Quote
gbates Posted October 26, 2011 Posted October 26, 2011 Finally got it working. I unhid the packages, rebuilt and unmounted the image, then mounted it again and opened the component removal window.Edit: it didn't really work. I could see the packages, but most of them were not removed. The iso only shrank about 30mbs, and after that, I can see most of the packages I removed using install_wim_tweak.exe.I agree, this should be requested. Legolash? I removed packages with Component removal, rebuild and save image. When I open this image again I don't see removed packages. Image is also smaller -it was around 11GB (little less) for W7Ultimate SP1, now it's 9.98GB.W7T is great all-in-one tool. You could do most of what it does with command line tools, but it's just faster with W7T. Quote
guillermo.dev Posted November 5, 2011 Author Posted November 5, 2011 I removed packages with Component removal, rebuild and save image. When I open this image again I don't see removed packages. Image is also smaller -it was around 11GB (little less) for W7Ultimate SP1, now it's 9.98GB.Could you please list what packages you removed? Quote
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